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Posted 10/1/2008 7:13:20 AM


Snapper

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Mr.

Two applications for reefs in Santa Rosa Sound (north of entrance to Ft.
Pickens)  and one in the Gulf of Mexico south of Park East (Santa Rosa
Island
) were received on 9/8 and a cursory review was completed and the
county was notified that additional information from the county will be
required before they can be placed on public notice. A more detailed request
for information will be forwarded to the county in the next 10-14 days.  The
Corps will address the two applications in Santa Rosa Sound as one
application evaluated by Steve Andrews in my office.  File numbers will be
provided tomorrow by separate email.

Two nearshore reefs (file #200704277) in the Gulf of Mexico on either side of
Pensacola Pass were the subject of a request for information from the county
last April and information was received  by the Corps this past Friday to
initiate consultation with the National Marine Fisheries service.  I've been
out of town since Monday morning and am in meetings tomorrow.  I expect to
review the information provided by the County early next week and if the
information is sufficient to initiate consultation that too will be
accomplished in the next 10-14 days. The application for this project was
received in July 07 and additonal information requested in early September
07.  Additional information was received in October 07 and the project placed
on public notice in Dec 07.  The public notice comment period was extended at
the request of commenting state and federal agencies. Adverse comments were
received and forwarded to the county w/recommendations in April 07.  I will
remain the project manager for this application and the status is pending
evaluation.  If the Corps is provided the information requested in April the
review could be completed in 135-150 days consider timeframes for
consultation with NMFS. Escambia County can provide you status updates.

At present the Corps has no general permit for artificial reefs though one
did exist in the past it was not extended due to concerns from state and
federal resource agencies.

Thanks for your interest,

Clif


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Post #193366
Posted 10/1/2008 9:19:47 AM


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"information was received  by the Corps this past Friday"

Kind of curious timing isnt it!!! 

"Adverse comments were
received and forwarded to the county w/recommendations in April 07"

Are these comment's public record??

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Post #193450
Posted 10/1/2008 12:54:28 PM


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Let me get this straight

July 07: Permit Applications Submitted to the Army Corp of Engineers (ACOE.)

Sep 07: ACOE request additional information (RAI.)

Oct 07: County answers RAI

Dec 07: Public Notice

April 08: Adverse Comments/ 2nd ACOE RAI (the email says April 07, but since the project wasn't submitted until July 07 I assume this is a typo.)

Sep 08: County Answers 2nd RAI

So a FDEP state permit for these reefs takes 30 days, and an ACOE Federal Permit takes 1.5 years and counting.

And what takes the County 6 months to answer a RAI? Do they need help. I bet I know some people that will volunteer some time!!!!!!!

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Post #193584
Posted 10/1/2008 1:01:51 PM


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My response to Clif:

Clif,
 
With respect to file #200704277. You wrote, "Two nearshore reefs (file #200704277) in the Gulf of Mexico on either side of Pensacola Pass were the subject of a request for information from the county last April and information was received  by the Corps this past Friday" I assume you mean April of 2008? Is that correct?
 
You wrote, "Adverse comments were received and forwarded to the county w/recommendations in April 07." Again is this April of 2008?
 
From your email, I gather that this is the correct timeline on this project (please correct me if I am wrong):
 
July 07: Permit Applications Submitted to the Army Corp of Engineers (ACOE.)

Sep 07: ACOE request additional information (RAI.)

Oct 07: County answers RAI

Dec 07: Public Notice

April 08: Adverse Comments/ 2nd ACOE RAI (the email says April 07, but since the project wasn't submitted until July 07 I assume this is a typo.)

Sep 08: County Answers 2nd RAI

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