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Posted 11/12/2008 8:47:47 PM


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Join the NRA!! Join the KKK!! Start a civil war! Do whatever it takes to stop the black man from taking our guns!!!!

Git'r'dun drink beer and watch Nascar, yeeehaw!

I like how you are trying to turn this into a racial thing when all we have brought up is ideals that differ from the ideals of our founding fathers.  Very nice move.

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Posted 11/14/2008 4:59:03 AM


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Who the fuck cares.  Under the Bush administration, gun manufactures suddenly became immune to tort litigation.  The problem with this?  They now have no incentive to research and implement gun safety technology.  Next time the 3 year old kid shoots himself in the head, keep this in mind.  On the flip side, it's one less hillbilly we will have in this country.  Praise Jesus! 

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I care - gun ownership is a freedom covered in the Bill of Rights.  We lose that and we are on a slippery slope to lose more freedoms, like the First Amendment that somehow allows you to say "Praise Jesus" that a child died (or may die in your post). 

The current law protecting gun manufacturers only protects them from frivolious lawsuits.  If they build a gun that explodes or doesn't work then they are still "sue-able" just like any manufacturer is.  Would you support suing Ford for making a car that runs everytime you turn the ignition key on?  That is what the current law protects against.  A firearm is supposed to go bang when loaded & the trigger depressed.  The problem is that idiots sometimes operate cars (about 49,000 die on the US of A's roads each year) and firearms.  The need is to educate and somehow control those who use any potentially dangerous tool.

Not sure who or what made you superior to others that you throw bigoted comments ("one less hillbilly") around and expect to be appluaded. 

Post #219929
Posted 11/14/2008 5:54:25 AM


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Who the f*** cares. Under the Bush administration, gun manufactures suddenly became immune to tort litigation. {quote}



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Post #219936
Posted 11/14/2008 7:15:11 AM
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Not to add to the debate, for what it's worth...but when a three year old has the opportunity to "blow his head off", there is only one place you need to look to hold someone accountable and that is to the gun owner.
If one of us is so incredibly irresponsible as to let a three ear old have access to a firearm, loaded or otherwise, it is we whop belong in jail for sheer stupidity. And if we are that stupid, we should be tried and found guilty of the worst charge they can throw at us.


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Posted 11/14/2008 7:57:00 AM


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I agree, but they made speed limits and safety belts to try and make safer an inherently dangerous product. I can see no reason why gun makers couldn't take similar actions - if reasonable.

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Posted 11/14/2008 10:42:06 AM
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It's a catch 22.

If you put forth laws to restrict ownership the only people you restrict are those that follow laws in the first place. The criminal is never or very rarely affected by this. So, the alternative is to account for each and every weapon out there, which results in the registry issue. But, when you do this you essentially give an invasion force a shopping list of the location of guns or the government a shopping list. So, which is more important? Or which is more likely?

Some want to protect themselves from the government or the invasion force. Sure, makes sense. Nothing wrong with this mindset at all. But if there is an invasion force or the government really decides to take our guns is having them registered really going to make that much of a difference? And while history does show a trend where this is concerened history also shows plenty of times where it just flat didn't matter when confronted with a force that was overwhelming.

The others would like to see criminals robbed of their weapons. This is impossible to completely do but it could be done to a very large part via tracking and registration options. It would take time but you could get many of the guns off the streets. But, here's the problem, does that really accomplish the intention of making you safe from criminals? I don't think so.

So, there it is, there is no win in this fight. I do find stopping criminals a higher priority than stopping the potential invader, but, weapons don't make them criminals. Take away the things that make them criminals and you take away crime.

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Posted 11/14/2008 12:40:31 PM
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WW2, How do you suggest we take away what makes them criminals without taking the same thing away from lawful gun owners? 180 Million gun owners didn't commit a crime today, why should they be punished or otherwise restricted?

The only way to accomplish what is needed for crime reduction is to mandate stiff penalties for gun crimes, like Florida's 10-20-Life policy, but the justice system and society are too soft to stick to those sentencing guidelines. No matter what laws you put in place, a criminal that wants a gun will get one. Meanwhile disarming the population only makes a criminal more bold about commiting crimes.

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Posted 11/14/2008 2:05:39 PM
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