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RE: Why all the rods

Zray Al — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:11:48 GMT

The laws in all states should be ya fish one rod at a time. For conservation sake as well as giving everyone an opportunity. Example: I trout fish in the winter in Texas. Municipal ponds draw alot of people. Before Texas changed the law to a two rod limit some folks would show up with 4-5 rods and try to dominate a large area of the embankment. I would toss my lure between their lines and once in awhile someone would say something to me which I would ignore. I have been known to "accidently" become entangled with multiple lines. Oh well, sorry. Respect and etiquette should be mutual. I can be the nicest guy you'll ever meet. Help children catch fish, give lures away, share my gatorade. I just don't handle ignoramous's very well. That's why normally I fish away from people and avoid fishing piers.

RE: Why all the rods

tri-haul — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:00:05 GMT

one answer for people bringing 5 - 10 rods may be to petion the pier operators to increase the admission incrimentally based on how many rods u want to take. the basis for this bieng: a person of average size takes up an average amount of space, therefore if ten anglers bring bring ten rods a piece, thier individual sq. ft goes up, then less people will be able to get on the pier(less revenue). and besides if more and more people dont return to the pier due to the "locals" they wont generate sustainable revenues year after year.

RE: Why all the rods

GatorBait — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:11:32 GMT

I agree. One of the best things i have ever done is purchase my boat. I used to fish the Destin pier untill a group of people with cone hats started throwing their lines over the top of mine fishing for bait. I was trying to talk nicely to them but they ignored me. They probably could not interpret english. Once we were tangled they pulled up there lines as fast as they could and the dude bit mine off to keep from rerigging his. Talking about rude!!! Then he started talking his language loudly. Im not sure if he was pissed off at his wife for doing something as stupid as that or if he was blaming me for the matter... Im a laid back guy, but i was like what the crap!!! The light bulb then came on. It was the last time i ever fished the Destin pier. I would definately surf fish before going back to that again. It was always that way and definetaly not enjoyable.

RE: Why all the rods

el spic cazador — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:21:22 GMT

Maybe a 15 minute mandatory first time guest, Pier fishing ettiquet class, complete with a photo id card and plaque four your enjoyment after completion!! that way atleast they know why there lines get cut, why they are threatend, and just maybe one of them will remember to move there sh$t out the way!!:banghead

Don't fish the piers much but when i do why is it that on tuesday morning when you have the pier to yourself there is always that one guy thats never seen a fishing pole, lure, or cigar minnow and for GOD SAKES turn that spining reel around before i pound you on the head with it, has to fish on my elbows and throw everywhere but in the casting lane??:doh

RE: Why all the rods

true-king — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:34:03 GMT

[quote][b]wishiniwasfishin07 (6/26/2008)[/b][hr] A Cobia pops up about 40 pounds. I was already working my YoZuri, and it just happend to be right below the cobia, I burn it towards the pier, cobia goes for it, whattayaknow, 49 cobia jigs at warp speed knock the cobia out. I know better than targeting cobia from the pier. 99% of the people who see a cobia are impatient and inconsiderate and will sling at it.

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You are right. Some of the guys out there get way to fired when they see a cobia and bomb a fish worked up on a lure or king bait. I was out there this season when a cobia came up at the end when some guys were fishing for kings. The fish came up on a bait and checked it out for a little bit, looked like it was about to eat, and then someone threw a jig at the fish. The jig went over the line of the king fisherman and pulled the king bait away just before the cobia could eat. Not all of the guys out there are like that. Most of them are pretty nice, but some get crazy when a cobia comes by. How happy would you have been if you were the king fisherman in this situation?

RE: Why all the rods

JoshH — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:04:07 GMT

I dont have that much experience on the pier but I have fished it 6 or 7 times. I dont go to fish for kings cobia or tarpon, I know better. I'll leave that up to the pros at the end. I go to catch spanish, blues, skippys, bonita and any other bait/chum I might need for sharks. Every time I've been there, someone was helping someone. One day, an obvious beginner couldn't figure out how me and the guy next to me were catching blues on every cast. The guy saw that and handed him 3 or 4 of his pompano jigs and showed him how to tie a loop knot. The guy gave him a few dollars and now all 3 of us were catching blues like crazy. One thing that really gets annoying is when people sling 10 or 15 bluefish onto the pier to sit in the sun and then they just leave. I solve that by going down there and getting them (they still chum up nicely) Another thing is non-english speaking folks thinking that casting across you and 5 other people is the way to go. When they reel up your tackle, and get mad makes me laugh. One other time, I was throwing a YoZuri crystal minnow hoping for a little king. A Cobia pops up about 40 pounds. I was already working my YoZuri, and it just happend to be right below the cobia, I burn it towards the pier, cobia goes for it, whattayaknow, 49 cobia jigs at warp speed knock the cobia out. I know better than targeting cobia from the pier. 99% of the people who see a cobia are impatient and inconsiderate and will sling at it. If they were real fisherman not necessarily trying to catch the fish for themselves, but see that it gets caught on the pier, they would be patient and let one person get a good cast in. I know I'm just ranting but maybe this will give you an idea of the good and bad of the pier.

jaceboat, chill out with the cussing

RE: Why all the rods

sailmaker — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:42:29 GMT

Dude, why are you so freeking defensive? You act as though I'm calling you out or something just because you fish on piers. If that's your preference then knock yourself out but don't blame others when they call a spade a spade. I haven't even been on this forum in a long time until a few days ago mainly because of the "talking shit" attitude that you so graciously brought up. I've NEVER seen a forum where this much BS, cussing and name calling was posted, LET ALONE allowed to pass, not to mention the day to day bragadocia "ok.... i'll bet i you i can catch more fish than you on any pier on the gulf coast.... you can use whatever tackle and bait you want, i'll use 10# test and all artificials..

wanna lose some money???" , That you yourself are guilty of.

Stop taking things personally every time someone says something that you don't like about piers and those who frequent them. On second thought, maybe you have a guilty conscience to go along with the already proven chip that you carry on your shoulder for doing some of the things that these other folks were finding fault with..........................................

RE: Why all the rods

VS200B — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:17:02 GMT

[quote][b]sailmaker (6/25/2008)[/b][hr]This all kind of backs up my point in another post, "that's why god invented boats", and yes, I own one and use it when I'm down there. When I'm lucky enough to GET down there the last thing in the world that I want to do [not counting my wife or myself dropping dead or getting hurt or having vehicle or boat trouble] is deal with jerks of any sex, age, creed color, size, shape or form! Unfortunately, piers in any location always have way more than their fair share of all of the above.[/quote]

wow... did you really just post on a thread that hasn't had a post in almost a month just to talk shit???..

ok.... i'll bet i you i can catch more fish than you on any pier on the gulf coast.... you can use whatever tackle and bait you want, i'll use 10# test and all artificials..

wanna lose some money???

RE: Why all the rods

sailmaker — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:09:58 GMT

This all kind of backs up my point in another post, "that's why god invented boats", and yes, I own one and use it when I'm down there. When I'm lucky enough to GET down there the last thing in the world that I want to do [not counting my wife or myself dropping dead or getting hurt or having vehicle or boat trouble] is deal with jerks of any sex, age, creed color, size, shape or form! Unfortunately, piers in any location always have way more than their fair share of all of the above.

RE: Why all the rods

kingfish501 — Wed, 28 May 2008 10:58:55 GMT

BayStealth....I have had waYYYYYYYYY more bad experiences with people fishing from boats than I have had at the pier.I run a flats boat but fish places like the Mass.Two of us in flatsboats were flyfishing for big Spanish and were the only ones catching any, so a lot of the boats there decided the way to handle that was to pull their anchors and run back and forth a few feet from us.I'e had a guy on a 30 foot Tiara not use chain, and try using a 2-1 scope keep drifting on top of me and then tell me I needed to pull my anchor and move the hell out of his way because he was trying to get anchored.Had big boats run on top of the wreck and on top of my bait trying to catch hardtails...when I asked them to at least shut their engines down they offered to board my boat and gie me a whoopin'.Had boats move to 10 feet off my stern and drop anchor because we were hitting fish after fish and they were not...while we were fishing off the stern.I'e been working a cobia on a fly and had a boat run up full bore and nail the cobe in the head with a jig, claiming that 1)they were cobia fishing and 2) cobia could not be caught on a fly.These examples don't even scratch the surface of rudeness on the water...so simple enough...if you wander out to the pier and expect us to vacate the pier because you are there...you need to be on a boat fishing.

A#%holes are not just on the pier...many many on boats are complete a-holes given the chance.

RE: Why all the rods

kingfish501 — Wed, 28 May 2008 10:44:44 GMT

If you want things done the way they do it on the Atlantic Coast, feel free to move there...enough of changing things to suit people coming in.

RE: Why all the rods

BayStealth — Mon, 26 May 2008 10:58:32 GMT

thanks VS:clap

RE: Why all the rods

philhensley — Sun, 25 May 2008 19:21:08 GMT

The easy way to control the number of rods, is like the Atlantic Coast piers do, charge per rod to fish. They charge $4.00 per rod to fish.

RE: Why all the rods

VS200B — Sun, 25 May 2008 17:37:53 GMT

dang... that was a mature reply

RE: Why all the rods

BayStealth — Sun, 25 May 2008 17:31:22 GMT

:reallycrying What a bunch of whiners . . . Just throw these little turds in the ocean / Gulf / whatever and let them swim to the beach with there 5 - 6 rods! And NO . . . We can't all just get along!:nonono

RE: Why all the rods

SheYakFishr — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:22:36 GMT

I've fished off the pier several times (met Konz out there) and everyone was very nice. Of course... I wouldn't of jumped into the pile that was at the end for anything.. laffs. Being that I grew up on a pier... I know how the guys on the end are...... (laffs)... but I still do enjoy going when I can. Everyone is there for one reason... to FISH!!!

RE: Why all the rods

mpmorr — Wed, 21 May 2008 09:57:45 GMT

[quote][b]jigslinger (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]Mike, I'm glad you were able to see for yourself that most of the people that are regulars on the pier are good people. I'm pretty sure the so called "pier mafia" was fishing all around you and I'm real sure that if you had hooked up to a big fish you would have had all the help and support you needed to get him on the deck. They get a bad rap sometimes but it's because they take their fishing serious. I have nothing but good things to say about the regulars down there.:bowdown[/quote]

I cant say that there was any animosity amongst anyone on the pier that day. I could see where some tempers could flare, but all in all it seemed like folks that love to fish were doing what they loved to do. I imagine it would be like a rookie fishing on a tournament boat and screwing up and causing the team to lose a good fish. I would expect a good ass chewing after that. Seems similar in spirit. The us vs. them crap is just ridiculous.

RE: Why all the rods

VS200B — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:38:37 GMT

i once jumped off the pier to get a kids rod that he dropped in the water (yes it's illegal, no i don't care)

RE: Why all the rods

jigslinger — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:35:04 GMT

Mike, I'm glad you were able to see for yourself that most of the people that are regulars on the pier are good people. I'm pretty sure the so called "pier mafia" was fishing all around you and I'm real sure that if you had hooked up to a big fish you would have had all the help and support you needed to get him on the deck. They get a bad rap sometimes but it's because they take their fishing serious. I have nothing but good things to say about the regulars down there.:bowdown

RE: Why all the rods

VS200B — Tue, 20 May 2008 12:30:59 GMT

[quote][b]mpmorr (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]Well I did not read the rest of the bull on this thread but just thought I might throw in my observations from this past week. I spent all day on the pier last Thurs (except for the storm) and I made a few observations. First let me say that I was disappointed the "Pier Mafia" was not there but the guys that were there were obviously the guys that are always there. They landed three cobes and hand full of kings that day. It was very interesting to watch this transpire since I had never seen the way the fish was landed on the pier. It was a team effort with one central guy more or less directing the show. Pretty well done in my opinion with no issues with folks getting out of the way. There is no question that if cobe is spotted that they do run to the spot for a shot in the path of the fish but no one ran over me in that process. Nothing really out of line was said and to be honest with you I did not even hear any cursing. Second, why do the folks that catch a cobe remove it from the pier then come back and continue to fish with thier cobe rod in hand. No I am not saying they did catch and keep another fish (that would be illegal) that I saw but they did not switch to a king rig or anything. Third there were a lot of people surfing on both sides of the pier that day but no one seemed to care. I thought that was a big no no. These are just my observations and I am very impressed with the team work that I witnessed and realize quite quickly that it does take knowledge and skill to fish the pier right along with team work. I am not sure how to get in that club but it looks like the members are there helping each other.[/quote]

i wish i would have been there to meet you mike, unfortunatly i wasn't in town... to answer a few questions, the 3 people that landed ling that day all have their RS (restricted species) license, which entitles them to a 2 fish limit per day, and surfing on the east side, if it was red flag, no one will usually say anything this late in the season, but if it was april, it probably wouldn't be tolerated.

RE: Why all the rods

mpmorr — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:46:34 GMT

Well I did not read the rest of the bull on this thread but just thought I might throw in my observations from this past week. I spent all day on the pier last Thurs (except for the storm) and I made a few observations. First let me say that I was disappointed the "Pier Mafia" was not there but the guys that were there were obviously the guys that are always there. They landed three cobes and hand full of kings that day. It was very interesting to watch this transpire since I had never seen the way the fish was landed on the pier. It was a team effort with one central guy more or less directing the show. Pretty well done in my opinion with no issues with folks getting out of the way. There is no question that if cobe is spotted that they do run to the spot for a shot in the path of the fish but no one ran over me in that process. Nothing really out of line was said and to be honest with you I did not even hear any cursing. Second, why do the folks that catch a cobe remove it from the pier then come back and continue to fish with thier cobe rod in hand. No I am not saying they did catch and keep another fish (that would be illegal) that I saw but they did not switch to a king rig or anything. Third there were a lot of people surfing on both sides of the pier that day but no one seemed to care. I thought that was a big no no. These are just my observations and I am very impressed with the team work that I witnessed and realize quite quickly that it does take knowledge and skill to fish the pier right along with team work. I am not sure how to get in that club but it looks like the members are there helping each other.

RE: Why all the rods

VS200B — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:21:08 GMT

[quote][b]lingfisher1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]jaceboat if you want to fish on the pier pm me the days you are going and if I am there you will not have a prob and will learn.You have seen in my earlier post that I take my son (who is 9) out very regular and he has been taught more by the people out there than me.We will all take the time to teach a younger fisher person how to.Just ask.There is a vast amount of info in the heads of fisherpeople out there.(have to be politicaly correct)[/quote]

thanks for being politically correct, but the only woman i can think of that fishes out there is Scott Bass :poke

RE: Why all the rods

lingfisher1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 00:54:53 GMT

jaceboat if you want to fish on the pier pm me the days you are going and if I am there you will not have a prob and will learn.You have seen in my earlier post that I take my son (who is 9) out very regular and he has been taught more by the people out there than me.We will all take the time to teach a younger fisher person how to.Just ask.There is a vast amount of info in the heads of fisherpeople out there.(have to be politicaly correct)

RE: Why all the rods

Clay-Doh — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:58:28 GMT

Very mature response jaceboat. You seem to be much wiser than your 14 years.

It was a steroe typical comment, about "young kids", but the ones who said it I am sure did not mean ALL younsters, but was pointing out that a lot of the problems are youngsters. Please don't take it as saying all youngsters are jackasses.

Most of the comments have to do with another thread probably, where people showed some of htere colors with there wannabe gangster mentality, and fully condoning hurling lead objects at a boat that comes to close to there waters.

You however seem to be very mature, and its a shame some knuckleheads, adults or otherwise have thrreatened you, and talked that way to you. It is amusing, because I have been out htere, hanging on hte reailing as is my right, and I have yet to have someone say that to me. I guees the hard ass comments only are said to kids (no offence calling you a kid Jace), or older frail individuals.

Maybe we need to have a "Take a youngster who truly wants to try but gets threatened pier fishin day". Maybe with a "big brother" hangin out next to you, certain people wouldnt threaten the safety of your ears.

Again, sorry to hear about your experience there. Make friends with some boat owners if your family doesnt have one, and get out fishin sometime!

RE: Why all the rods

lil_fisherman — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:33:33 GMT

with the degree of a few of the people out on the end, if a season pass costs 2 bucks, thats 2 bucks too much...that little click thinks they own it and are rude to trespassers.

RE: Why all the rods

Freespool — Fri, 16 May 2008 22:09:15 GMT

I fish the pier alot and most people out there are nice and willing to help. Chances are if you think someone out there is an @$$hols, then the rest of us do to.

RE: Why all the rods

jaceboat — Fri, 16 May 2008 21:35:55 GMT

lil_fisherman i respect u for respecting me. u are right i did handle that in an immature way. i apologize if i offended anybody its just every time i go to the pier there will be 1 or 2 nice people then a bunch of people that yell at me and my friends well actually everybody for that matter and that have us leave the T at the end.

RE: Why all the rods

lil_fisherman — Fri, 16 May 2008 16:49:11 GMT

dude i admire you for standing up, very mature...of course if my 14 year old cursed like you, he'd be crappin his teeth out the next day. resentment is no excuse for immaturity...represent yourself as an adult, some adults might learn from it.

RE: Why all the rods

jaceboat — Fri, 16 May 2008 16:40:49 GMT

when i read this post i got sort of pissed off. i am 14 and love to fish so this is what pissed me off:

[quote]but some of the kids that should still be in school or just out of school should take their step stools back and a few dozen rods back and think about others and when a cobia comes around- JAK
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i like to go down and watch them land cobia and kings because i know i wont get the chance because idiots wont let me fish and i watch out when ever the angler is coming towards me i get off the rail and back far enough up to where the caster dont have to worry about hitting me even though last time i was on the pier i was told to "back the **** up because if i dont they are goin' to hook me ears and tear that **** off my head."

[quote]Its always the same lil tirds that should be in schooL. I wish them fella's would get a Girl friend and stop acting like a Crack Heads...
HAWG HUNTER
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so i guess because i happen to be in school i dont no anything about fishing i am a little "tird" and i need to get a girl friend and stop acting like a crack head. so just because a few butt hole kids mess u up ever once and a while i am automatically one of them and i am not allowed to fish off the end of the pier. but hell what do i know i act "like a crack head..."

[quote]these little pricks think they own the damn pier...
hebegb
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so now i am a little prick that thinks i own the pier. dang i am such a crack head i didnt even know i thought i owned the pier. wait i dont do crack and i dont think the pier because i have courtesy for others and respect for my self. i am sorry to tell u but u are sadly mistaken when u said we think we own the pier when in reality its the adults that chase the kids off the end because they actually do think they own the pier

[quote]Granted some of the young locals are good fishermen and have a considerable amount of time on the pier for their ages.
David_H
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i am glad someone is not stereotypical and has respect for people that are younger than they are.

i am not trying to start an argument or piss any one off i just want u all to know that its not just us kids that are pricks and act like crack heads. ok i wish i could catch kings and cobia but i guess that i wont be able to till u all get over ur stereotypes.

-jace

RE: Why all the rods

konz — Fri, 16 May 2008 12:15:16 GMT

[quote][b]parrothead (5/15/2008)[/b][hr]Hey Konz,

Thats because you are an a$$hole !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding. Couldnt pass it up. :moon:moon

Scott[/quote]

yeah I guess your right.........:moon

RE: Why all the rods

hebegb — Fri, 16 May 2008 11:35:35 GMT

lmao...I was about tempted to throw that Reggie guy over a few years back...

I did learn a lot out there to be sure

RE: Why all the rods

seminolewind — Fri, 16 May 2008 11:30:44 GMT

I used to fish the pier alot but lately have been fortunate that many of my friends have boats so I fish with them now. There are some people on the pier that can be assholes but the majority are pretty laid back and honestly if you go out there and listen you can gain a vast amount of knowledge because there are some great fishermen out there. Like I said there are a select few assholes out there but don't pay them any attention do your own thing and if they start some shat throw there ass over.

RE: Why all the rods

lingfisher1 — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:21:59 GMT

And thanks to you and Hogue,Tyler,Crab,Gene,Roddy,Gary,and too many more to list for helping me get him into fishing.

RE: Why all the rods

lingfisher1 — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:17:37 GMT

VS he already is.In 3 years he is going to be schooling all of us.Getting his first ling rod made next weekend for his birthday.

RE: Why all the rods

parrothead — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:18:45 GMT

Hey Konz,

Thats because you are an a$$hole !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding. Couldnt pass it up. :moon:moon

Scott

RE: Why all the rods

VS200B — Thu, 15 May 2008 07:49:49 GMT

[quote][b]lingfisher1 (5/15/2008)[/b][hr]

I started taking my son a year or so ago and he has been helped and taught how by alot of good people there.I have fished Navarre and Pensacola for awhile but still don't know ever thing but am embraced by most and the fact they embraced my son and helped him makes me want to go ever day.Thanks to you VS for the times you have talked to my son,he really likes you.

.[/quote]

No Problem Ryan... he's gonna be one hell of a Fisherman in about 3 years! (we better watch out!)

RE: Why all the rods

tmass — Thu, 15 May 2008 01:14:09 GMT

I think its funny how out of hand threads like this get. no one that even fishes the pier is posting anything to add fuel to the fire and everyone keeps goin on and on. things on the pier aren't going to change any time soon and if you dont like it then dont fish it...

RE: Why all the rods

lingfisher1 — Thu, 15 May 2008 00:54:47 GMT

I really hate to hear about the bad expierences people have had on the pier.There is some very inconsiderate people on the pier but there is 10 times more who will be glad to fish with you whether you are from out of town or not.

Yes there are some undesireable people out there but ask around and most will be glad to have another fisherperson to fish with and talk to.

RE: Why all the rods

Getsome — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:37:53 GMT

Man i'm glad I own 3 boats. I lived in Mobile and used to fish the Dauphin Island pier when I was younger and I hated it. If your on your own boat you don't have to worry about all the BS. Just catch fish as long as you can afford gas. :letsdrink

RE: Why all the rods

just add water — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:17:26 GMT

I have fished the pier in penacola for over 7 years. I look forward to taking our vacation down there. But over the last two years the group that hangs out at the end of the pier seem to think that they own it. These few people created problems that I did not want to deal with while on vacation. When I am on vacation, I want to relax and enjoy, not worry about the people that do not care about others. I purchased a boat to go out fishing in, but I do miss the pier. It would seem that the owners of the pier would try and tackle this situation and deal with the ones that wreck it for the majority.

Just my 2 cents worth.