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Posted 5/9/2008 8:33:50 AM


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   FOR the BOATERS (notice i didnt call them fishermen" IF we could make you stop fishing for  20 minutes...  Ya.    im wasteing YOUR   time  out there anchored up ..cause you have to wait for me! I bet you wouldnt like it, it would be kinda like driving your boat up to the pier.

   im pretty sure the pier guys werent told to "take a break" cause a boater is gonna be in the way for a while. An if i paid to fish im gonna keep fishing ...very close to you!

Inconsiderate asshole! and then your gonna boast about your lack of consideration ..online?

An all u haters of the pier, yall er just jealouse cause ya cant fish.

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Posted 5/9/2008 8:50:45 AM


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VS200B (5/8/2008)
sure thing Mike...

OOH, BY THE WAY... MY OFFER STILL STANDS FOR THE FIRST ANNUAL PFF (UNOFFICIAL) "TAKE A BOAT FISHERMAN, PIER FISHING" DAY!!!

Dude I will take you up on that offer!!! It's been probably 14 years since I've stepped foot on a pier. Never on the new one. I think it would be a hoot. Caught my first King off the old pier.

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Posted 5/9/2008 9:30:28 AM


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Wow this whole thread has taught me 10 important things.  They are as follows

1. The mafia is in full swing on the pier. ( I bet it gets hot in those velvet jump suites)

2. Bill is an awesome shot with a hand gun

3. Bag o' douche is a damn funny term!!

4. People that pier fish often, develop a type of jedi mind power and can control where their jig lands. 

5. 15 year old kids are the most hard core mother f***ers around!

6. I need to invest in some more silver gotchas

7. Hogwild is the name of a boat and not the title of my ex girlfriends recently released secret lesbian sex tape

8. It's a scientific fact that when a boat is near.....it prevents somebody from being able to pee

9. Natty light lingers on people like old spice

10.  I need to work out and buy a bass reel so that i can fish on the T

**** the above is all in jest ****

Everybody was at fault in this situation....that's obvious.  If somebody was actually trying to hit a guys boat....well that is grounds for an ass beating.  It's pretty simple really. 

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Posted 5/9/2008 9:51:22 AM
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Dear sailfish23, lingfisher1, and Jhogue....I'm sorry. I was out of line.

NOT!!!

Sailfish23...learn how to use spell check buddy.

lingfisher1...the fact that you get so worked up over this incident and some words on this forum shows your true intelligence. It is your mentality that has given pier fisherman a bad rep. Congrats on your college education. Welcome to the club. Did you say "come meet me and battle?" Isn't that what break dancers use to do..."battle?" I might take you up on it. I will bring my cardboard dancefloor out to the end of the pier and we can "battle." Queer!

Jhogue...they do have internet in 'dumb ass ville'. It looks like your last post was at 11:00 p.m. last night. I didn't know the public library was open that late. Maybe if you weren't a career pier rat, you could sit at your cush job like mine, and get paid to watch you GROMS fight over who came to close to the pier today.

Keep it going guys...this is pure entertainment!

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Posted 5/9/2008 9:51:32 AM
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that is definatly the funniest thing i have EVER read on this forum!!!!!!!!!


I don't care who you are, thats some funny stuff.
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Posted 5/9/2008 10:24:05 AM


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OK between Konz and shtbrd1 posts my employees are wondering if I'm in my office drinking!  That is some funny shit right there.  Konz you get a thumbs up on #8.  That was truely great reading guys.  Hell I didn't even know there was a public library.

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Posted 5/9/2008 11:47:54 AM


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Konz

  That's some Funny Stuff there, I wasn't going to post  on this subject bc of all the Bs flying but after reading your post I just Had to, Thanks for the Laugh

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Posted 5/9/2008 12:16:33 PM


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hahaha.. Konz... YOU my friend are the shit! Your post made all the other ridiculous shit worth reading! Thanks for the laugh!!!

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Posted 5/9/2008 12:25:17 PM
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With 35 years of cobia fishing experience from both a boat and off the pier, here is my take on the situation:  I understand thouroughly how aggrevating it is for pier fishermen to have a boat approach within casting distance of the pier, but as Patman stated, this was not the situation. From what I understand, this guy had permission from pier management to pull next to the pier and have his cobia weighed. I would have never done this, (or at least would have pulled up on the west side), but he did have verbal permission. Even though the pier gave him permission, there is still the legal aspect of pulling up to the pier as VS200B stated. I know how accurate most avid pier fishermen are and believe me from that range, they could have wrecked havoc on any portion of that boat or person in it for that matter but that still does not give them the right to throw at or near the boat. If you accidentally injure a person on board then you would be in a lawsuit that you could not win. When I am cobia fishing from a boat I stay as far from the pier as possible because that is the legal and ethical thing to do. If you are dumb enough to troll within casting distance of the pier, (which this guy obviously did not do), then expect someone on the pier to throw over your lines. This was a "touchy" situation and I can see both sides, but I don't understand boats that fish within casting distance of the pier, (when they have 80 miles of beach front to fish), and at the same time would have no sympathy for a pier fisherman that was sued for injuring a boat passenger with his ling jig. If you don't think ling jigs can be dangerous, ask Roddy Pate. He was hit in the head with one a very long time ago and spent quite a few days in the hospital. He was lucky to have made it!
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Posted 5/9/2008 12:50:34 PM


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seacapt (5/7/2008)
  I'm guessing that this is going to be a very long thread.  

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Posted 5/9/2008 2:01:21 PM
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why dont we pier guys, boat guys and surf guys to go buy a bunch of water balloon launchers and pick a day to have the biggest maratime water balloon fight ever. then meet up and drink beer and hug it out. just an idea, sounds like fun.
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Posted 5/9/2008 2:03:23 PM


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you can't hug pier rats.......they smell like naty ice......read my 10 things learned thread

just kidding pier guys.......hey i'm a pier guy too......just on the short pier.

do you think that's anything like the short bus?

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Posted 5/9/2008 2:10:56 PM


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Konz,

Your 10 things learned from this situation was classic!  I hope I don't get fired...  Boss came in to see what the hell I was laughing about, had to do the patented menu/D to get this off my screen. 

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Posted 5/9/2008 2:33:04 PM
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Entire Thread needs to be deleted except for Konz's comments on what he learned.

What I learned is:

1. Kingkilla should have stayed away from the pier with his boat.  In the excitement of the moment however with his first cobia (a good fish at that), I can understand why he did approach the pier. In retrospect, he probably won't do it again.

2. Some of the pier rat and boater replies in this thread reflect very poorly on both groups. Hopefully, all will grow out of it as they mature, or if they are already in adult hood they will change their attitudes.  

3. Fishing is a sport (commercials excluded), it is not life or death. Catching or not catching the biggest or most cobia will not make you a man. Have fun and treat others on the water and on the pier as you would like you and your own family to be treated. 

 just kidding - screw all ya'll - I will run you down and or knock you down to get to the best fishing spot or catch the big one.  

Mark W out and bored with this thread

  

   

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Posted 5/9/2008 2:55:15 PM


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konz (5/9/2008)
Wow this whole thread has taught me 10 important things.  They are as follows

1. The mafia is in full swing on the pier. ( I bet it gets hot in those velvet jump suites)

2. Bill is an awesome shot with a hand gun

3. Bag o' douche is a damn funny term!!

4. People that pier fish often, develop a type of jedi mind power and can control where their jig lands. 

5. 15 year old kids are the most hard core mother f***ers around!

6. I need to invest in some more silver gotchas

7. Hogwild is the name of a boat and not the title of my ex girlfriends recently released secret lesbian sex tape

8. It's a scientific fact that when a boat is near.....it prevents somebody from being able to pee

9. Natty light lingers on people like old spice

10.  I need to work out and buy a bass reel so that i can fish on the T

**** the above is all in jest ****

Everybody was at fault in this situation....that's obvious.  If somebody was actually trying to hit a guys boat....well that is grounds for an ass beating.  It's pretty simple really. 

 

Man I wish I didn't make this list!!! Sorry to the forum for being part of this....

 

Konz, I will have a pic of your twin when I come down next week....been to lazy to get it scaned for my computer

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Posted 5/9/2008 2:58:49 PM


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Nah man it's all in jest.  Hell I could use a little work on my grouping.  Went out shooting with a friend and did okay.  I'm dead on with the 45 and 38 that I shot......I was okay with the 380 and 40.

Give me a shot gun and I'm surgical........lmao

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Posted 5/9/2008 3:32:50 PM


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That was a long read,  took up the last part of the day at work though.

I'm really tempted to stir the pot again.....I won't though. 

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Posted 5/9/2008 5:48:41 PM


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konz (5/9/2008)
hey i'm a pier guy too......just on the short pier.

You fish the short pier!!! Ha. They need a t-shirt with that on it. Too bad only like 10 people would get it.

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Posted 5/9/2008 6:09:33 PM


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David_H (5/8/2008)
Like I said earlier, no jigs were thrown at the boat. Yes some were thrown around or near the boat in a childish display of displeasure. The boat was in close enough, to where it would have been impossible for a 12 year old tourist from Kansas with a Shakespeare combo he had just bought from WalMart an hour before to miss it if wanted to hit the boat. Not a single jig hit the boat period end of discussion.

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in your own words you said "no jigs were thrown at the boat, yet some were thrown around or near it"...  wow i must have misunderstood you cause i thought hat when you throw around or near something, youre throwing at it..  but yall pier fishermen have those magical powers to throw "near" something without actually throwing at it..  youre even more of a moron than i initially thought. 

as far as my shooting skills are concerned.. i was just trying to point out that no one can control a projectile enough to have someone else be comfortable having it launched/shot at them.  and i guarantee that if i saw a cobe from the pier and i had my rifle i could put one between her eyes.  but im sure you wouldnt want me popping shots at you to teach you a lesson, just as i wouldnt want you tossing a jig at me to teach me to stay away from the pier with my boat..  not acceptable no matter how "perfect" your aim is with a jig.

PS BTW Konz, you have now graduated to tops on my list of funniest people i have ever met, even though i have never met you

PS david h youre a moron, once again, in case you forgot..  and despite my age(25) i can assure you i havent shit in a diaper in many years..  but i make fun of people as dumb as you on a daily basis

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Posted 5/9/2008 6:54:21 PM


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konz (5/9/2008)
Wow this whole thread has taught me 10 important things.  They are as follows

1. The mafia is in full swing on the pier. ( I bet it gets hot in those velvet jump suites)

2. Bill is an awesome shot with a hand gun

3. Bag o' douche is a damn funny term!!

4. People that pier fish often, develop a type of jedi mind power and can control where their jig lands. 

5. 15 year old kids are the most hard core mother f***ers around!

6. I need to invest in some more silver gotchas

7. Hogwild is the name of a boat and not the title of my ex girlfriends recently released secret lesbian sex tape

8. It's a scientific fact that when a boat is near.....it prevents somebody from being able to pee

9. Natty light lingers on people like old spice

10.  I need to work out and buy a bass reel so that i can fish on the T

**** the above is all in jest ****

Everybody was at fault in this situation....that's obvious.  If somebody was actually trying to hit a guys boat....well that is grounds for an ass beating.  It's pretty simple really. 

I did not want to reply on this foolish thread but that sums up the whole thread. I also want to add that it is one of the funniest damn post I have read on the forum besides the 15 year old kids spouting off at the mouth like they are invincible. Nice fish and welcome to the forum!

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Posted 5/9/2008 7:40:17 PM
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Geesh, 6 pages......

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Posted 5/9/2008 10:44:17 PM


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as a former...thankfully...pier fisherman


I will fish from a boat or not at all.

Ya'll are some of the rudest, crudest and most immature people I have ever come across...from the beginning with some midget phillipino tard (4 years ago) til now...SSDD

yeah yeah, we get it ....you own the pier everyone else is a homo

this is NOT aimed at 80% of the folks out there...and you can separate yourselves into categories....


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Posted 5/10/2008 6:10:46 AM


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what a bunch of dildos!   stay the hell away from the pier unless its an a emergency....duh  and no you cant fish as well as those guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 5/10/2008 8:15:56 AM


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Yep...a bunch of 14-18 year old kids are gonna teach me alot about fishing.  Yessir, you right.  See em' all the time out there showing people how to wire a bill, pull a big grouper loose, catching 40+ pound dolphin.  Yep, I stand corrected.  They are GODS!!!  Just ask em'.....

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Posted 5/10/2008 8:33:18 AM


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yur talkin about a team sport, sport. I repeat they are better anglers

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A team sport?  Yes.  That is where "better" anglers wind up.  Just because you can cast a damn spinning rod it supposedly makes you a better angler?  Bullshit.  Where is the knowledge?  Tell me, oh great ones, how do you constantly produce big fish?  Popping off and saying they are all that and a bottle of Maalox, just don't cut it.

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yur talkin about a team sport, sport. I repeat they are better anglers

Define "better anglers"

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Posted 5/10/2008 8:59:55 AM


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One thing that strikes me consistantly when people talk about cobia fishing the pier, is the competition between anglers out there. The whole first shot bullshit and pushing and shoving. When most people fish cobia on a boat.. it doesnt matter who catches the fish.. THE WHOLE BOAT CATCHES THE FISH! U dont have to call first shot in the tower.. someone throws.. someone drives, someone gaffs.. its teamwork. At the end of the day everyone goes home with a share of the fish. It is, after all, supposed to be fun, right? I think its insane that someone cant take their kid out to the pier.. walk to the end, and watch for fish like everyone else without being shoved, pushed out of the way etc.  For that matter though.. I would just as soon that the group of rude, full contact pier fisherman stay on the pier, because I definately dont want to contend with their bullshit antics on a boat. I am sure the 80% of pier fisherman that are out there for fun are sick of it too.. As far as that crowd of young punks goes.. its a shame you took something like fishing and turned it into a venue to threaten people, talk shit and generally be a nuissance. You guys may as well leave the rods at home because you missed the whole point.

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Posted 5/10/2008 9:11:49 AM
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Wow, this whole thing makes me wonder why its so hard to get new blood into fishing or hunting for that matter. Antics as such fuels the anti's.....

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Yep...a bunch of 14-18 year old kids are gonna teach me alot about fishing. Yessir, you right. See em' all the time out there showing people how to wire a bill, pull a big grouper loose, catching 40+ pound dolphin. Yep, I stand corrected. They are GODS!!! Just ask em'.....



So I guess you know everything there is to know about fishing...There are fishermen in that age range who fish the pier that have done all those things and will show you if you don't believe it.

That statement and others like it are uncalled for, your trying to prove your better than people you don't even know and have never seen fish, maybe you need to stop and think about what your saying before you post.
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