Wade B.

Mako 284 w/ twin 250 verados

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change?? ok, you have never steered me wrong, now how do i

put a stinger hook on???

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on both??

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After catching one I bend the barbs on the treble hook down....This allows easy release and the fish appreciates it....

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do not put the stinger in the head and j hook in the tail of a live bait, kings instinctively hit the tail of a trolled or even freelined live bait.  there are a few ways around it, if a king hits and misses, immediately freespool and chances are it will come back.  like I said by nature, they try and cut the tail off and return for the rest.  if you have stinger's in the tail, you don't have to wait for the return.  In some 12 yrs of tournament king fishing, I've never caught a king with the lead hook in it's mouth.

I use 3, 4 and 5 hook rigs depending on the bait and size of what I'm using.  All the baits we use are large, avg being a 2# hardtail and up to a 36" long ribbonfish.  I took a hardtail to the scales of the ADSFR last yr that just happened to be left over in the livewell at the end of the day and it weighed 4.98#, I would have used him in a heart beat if we where running short on baits.

I'll post a pic or two shortly on one of my rigs.  It's quite a bit smaller than most use but work well for us......

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Stephen

a typical haywire twist/wrap

a ribbon fish rig, smaller baits......less hooks

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Stephen

I agree, I have a 4/0 Pfluger bought at Boaters World for $99.00 and I love it. You are right about that lever drag, it's so nice. But fight him easy, the harder you fight him the better your chance of loosing him. Keep all the slack out of your line.

those hooks are alot smaller than most teams use, 1/0 ringed tuna tamer, #4's and single #6 at the end but they are 6X's and you can't find them anywhere locally.  this rig works well enough that Dan caught both of his 70# hoo's with just the #6 stinger in it's mouth.  Lou's daughter even caught a 9' hammer on these rigs.  I've been making these basically the same for about two years with very few mods and they work for use.  We have had a few wire breaks lately but like I said they've all been on the wire, not a wrap.

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maybe I go overboard compared to some guys but every reel is respooled at least every other tourney, every reel is disassembled, cleaned, inspected and lubed every other tourney and rebuilt at least annually.

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That's interesting. We used to fish a single 6/0 hook on our short bait and caught a lot of fish on it. Bait looked great with just that single hook through his nose. We would free spool him when he ate it, but it seems like bigger fish don't miss the bait very often. As far as all the advice for fishing very light drags for kingfish I tend to dissagree. We used to (when we fished mackerel tournaments) put a lot of drag on the fish. 1/0 trebles and 30-40 lb line can handle a lot of heat. Seems like we ran in to a lot more problems when we let a good fish run all over the world than when we put the heat to him. I have always been curious as to why people put a smaller hook as the stinger? I alway figured that if you hooked him on the front hook he probably had both hooks, but if you hooked him on the back hook that would be the only one that had him, and I damn sure didn't want it to be a smaller hook. Interesting how different many people do it.

 

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I too fish the multiple stingers so I'll tell you why...  We have someone on the boat that likes the single wire with "slider" hooks.  What I see as the main difference is that when we hook a king on the "slider" rig all of the hooks seem to pile up in one hook sot.  There is usually quite a wound in the fish by the time we land it.  With the multiple stingers every hook always has it's own hook point (on the fish) and more hooks seem to get in the fish.  I don't like how the sliders hook or fight the fish.

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I know alot of tournament angler's that still fish with 1/0 and 2/0 trebles and big leads.  Like I stated earlier, I use quite a bit smaller gear than some of the other anglers out there but I think it's all been part of the change in technology.   Just a quick example being the hooks we use and why.  You can take just about any 1/0 treble and bend two of the hooks together with you fingers.  The little #4 and #6 treble's we use, you can't do it.  In the past yr and a half we've been using them, we've caught everything from cobia, aj, multiple hoo at 60-70#, white marlin and a lot of good sized kings.  We've never bent a single hook.  That technology wasn't out there even 3 yrs ago.  These hooks are so small and sharp, they get into everything where with the larger hooks I would routinely have hooks in a multiple hook rig that didn't get into a fish.

As for the drags, I agree you can put a lot of heat on a fish and some still do but we found as we reduced the pressure through less drag and smaller/softer rods and focused on consistent pressure we where putting on a fish, we saw fewer lost fish due spitting the hooks or wire/line failure.  We saw such a dramatic change that we had a couple of 40 fish days last yr with zero lost fish.  I had never seen that kind of hook up/catch ratio's and was pretty convinced on how at least I wanted to rig.

Don't get me wrong,  I know the larger tackle/rigs work.  A whole lot of yrs ago when I first started really targeting kings was when I was pier fishing and deckhanding and did it just like everyone else.  But it's changed so much as technology has advanced and a good example would be for those who have been doing it a while, remember when all kingfishing was done anchored up, drifting or chumming.  You just don't see that done anymore, I can't remember the last time I saw an SKA guy anchored up.  I'm not saying it's the best or only way, it's just my way of doing things ......for now. 

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used it , my 850 is only going to hold so much line, whats strong

enough but will let me hold more line and would a smaller test help me cast better??? Rember i am fishing off the pier

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