http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395584,00.html

http://reject-the-un.blogspot.com/2008/07/will-obamas-global-poverty-act-tax.html

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ARE OH EF EL

What does Bush have to do with this topic?

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Note who the sponsors of this bill are.

S 2433 ISRS

To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

December 7, 2007

Mr. OBAMA (for himself, Mr. and HAGEL, Ms. CANTWELL, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Mr. LUGAR, Mr. DURBIN, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. BIDEN, Mr. DODD, Mr. FEINGOLD, Ms. SNOWE, Mrs. MURRAY, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. JOHNSON, Mr. SMITH, and Mr. KERRY) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations

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I say again..ROFL...

Hell, I have a plan, Let GW attack the country and we'll pay to rebuild it....

I agree that government spending is out of control.  However, Senate Bill 2433 is nothing more than redistribution of wealth.  This reeks of Socialism which was unsuccessfully tried in the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, and China.  It just doesn't work.  Neither does socialized medicine.  Congress had to contract out the operation of their cafeteria because of a $12,000,000 deficit.  If the federal government can't operate a cafeteria, how can you trust them to run health care?

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Do you mean Gore?  Al Gore?  The inventor of the Internet?  The infamous film producer of "An Inconvenient Truth"?  The Gore, who used computer generated footage of melting glaciers from the scifi film "The Day After Tomorrow" in his film about the global warming hoax?  The Gore who keeps getting richer by investing in the "Carbon Credts" scam?

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AHHHHHHH, now we are getting somewhere....see you were so busy hating me and everything I stand for that you didn't bother to ASK what I stand for. I have said it on here before and I'll say it again for those that have missed it. My discussions are not to get people to vote for Obama, they are not to get people to vote for McCain. Dig through my posts and you will see it several times.

DO NOT VOTE THE PARTY LINES!!!!!!! Fucking read, there are other choices out there. GREAT choices. I am not going to tell you who I think is great. It's not for me to try to tell you who to vote for. but I feel that I MUST tell you that you have more options than just the 2. If you look hard enough and have the balls to cast your vote outside of those 2 retarded parties you will see that there might just be someone that is even MORE in line with your overall beliefs than the party that mom and dad TOLD you matched your beliefs.

Look at the last 3 months, Consumers made it loud and clear that they were not going to tolerate high gas prices without some sort of response. The politicians heard it and took action. It wasn't very good action and they fucked it all up as usual, but what it should display to everyone out there is that when we all have one voice we can get something done. That one voice can be shouted BEHIND 1 cause, or, it can be used to express dismay AGAINST something. The "evil" Liberals have already shown you how to do it, you just have to have the balls to step out and do it. Liberals split thier vote before. Voting not for a democrat but for Ralph Nader. Now don't get all stupid and suggest that I am calling Nader a profit or whatever stupid shit. I am suggesting that if that sort of action were taken on both sides of the fence then the Dems and Reps would get a very blatant slap in the face and either continue in their ways, thus ensuring their demise or they would change to compete with the new threat. The threat that is not yet subjected to special intrests.

Yeah, research his speech on the internet, don't read the conservative spin on it, read the speech. You'll find that he didn't say that at all and if you put it in the context where he said it you will find that he was the sponsor of the bill that set the wheels in motion to give the funding of the government to create the beginnings of the internet.

You're suggesting that glaciers aren't shrinking?

and out of all that I wrote there, you grabbed onto a name? Wow, try reading to get the point and not sound bites, but I guess if you're used to reading propaganda then you are used to reading bites and taking things out of context in order to make something. Here let me make it easy for you..

"Yeah, ....don't read...conservative...speech.....of the Internet"...this is a bite taken out of context, see how it suggest that I would tell you not to read conservative speeches on the internet?????? Now, go look up the propaganda on the Al Gore internet speech and it will look just like what I typed. "...Al Gore...Invented....Internet...."

Have you ever wondered what all those little dots mean between the quotes????...probably not...

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Amen.

I think I need to figure out a way to get the point out there that voting outside of the 2 is ok. The problem is you get the 2 big dogs going on their scare tactics trying to convince you that a vote away from them is a vote for the othe side, when if enough people do it a vote away from thier party could very well create a 3rd party, aka the wild card.

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Yes, I have read your post.  Yes, I do know "what those...the quotes" mean.  You guys?  Talk about stereotyping. 

Why do you keep referring back to President Bush over and over?  He is not the issue of this topic.  The merits of past presidencies is inconsequential to this post.  My concern is Obama.  He has the most liberal voting record in the senate.  Does this not worry you?  Have you read the entire text of Senate Bill S. 2433?  Have you read the minutes of the U.N. Millennium Development Goal?  Have you read Obama's version of universal health care?  Are you not concerned with the fact Obama is against additional oil drilling?  Against new nuclear power stations?  That Obama believes the 19,000,000 billion barrels of oil the U.S. consumes daily can be offset by properly inflating tires and getting a tune up? That Obama considers himself a "citizen of the world"?  (Read his speech delivered Germany).  That he bashes the U.S.?

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes
on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other
countries are going to say OK."
-Senator Obama in a campaign speech today (May 18, 2008)

Concerning glaciers.  Yes, some are melting.  So what?  Glaciers have been advancing and receeding for eons prior to man.  To what do you attribute that?  There are just as many, if not more, reputable scientists and institutions that maintain man made global warming can not be substantiated.  If you want, I will provide you with links to that effect.  What happened to the man made global cooling frenzy of the 80's?  Is man made global warming just the new craze?  To me Al Gore is a charlatan with his own personal agenda and his own best interest at heart.

In closing, I am very concerned about Obama's ideology and his lack of ability to govern.  I want a president who has the best interest of the U.S. at heart.  I could care less about the rest of the world.  For me, Obama is not that person.

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I think this is the first time I have agreed with WW2. It,s up to the American People to break the Rep, Dem, cycle. They have had a hold on this country for way too long. Either party will always do whats in the best interest for their party and screw the PEOPLE!! Vote for a 3rd party and maybe the PEOPLE once again will be heard!

Yes, in a way, but voting 3rd party gets them the ability to get access to all kinds of funds and things. Ross Perot almost got enough votes one year to get his party in the mix.

Absolutely, if I were to try to but into politics that's the route I would go. This is a good place to start reading, not for the individual candidates but for a nice list of alternative parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_presidential_candidates,_2008

My suggestion for those that are look for "change" is to read up on some of these other parties. You might just find out you are not republican or democrat at all, you might be libertarian, green or reform. Once you have found a party that more closely resembles your ideas then look at the candidate they have put up and see if that person is someone you can get behind(note that I don't suggest you immediately vote for them either). Voting a party line is dangerous. It removes thought from the processs. A bad vote that you thought about is better than a bad vote that you didn't think about. If enough people were to abandon the dems and reps they will get the major wake up call and perhaps repair themselves. It's not likely to destroy them but it can break thier comfort level. It's the comfort of knowing that they have millions of people that will vote republican or democrat(no matter what) that allows them to just sit back and ride the money train.