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Posted 10/12/2008 11:50:37 AM


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Wow.


;Record;Pts;Pvs
1. Texas (39);6-0;1,599;5
2. Alabama (26);6-0;1,582;2
3. Penn St.;7-0;1,492;6
4. Oklahoma;5-1;1,306;1
5. Florida;5-1;1,284;11
6. Southern Cal;4-1;1,247;8
7. Texas Tech;6-0;1,210;7
8. Oklahoma St.;6-0;1,184;17
9. BYU;6-0;1,131;9
10. Georgia;5-1;1,081;10
11. Missouri;5-1;984;3
12. Ohio St.;6-1;908;12
13. LSU;4-1;893;4
14. Utah;7-0;834;14
15. Boise St.;5-0;714;15
16. Kansas;5-1;620;16
17. Virginia Tech;5-1;540;18
18. North Carolina;5-1;416;22
19. South Florida;5-1;397;19
20. Michigan St.;6-1;371;23
21. Wake Forest;4-1;330;21
22. Vanderbilt;5-1;258;13
23. Pittsburgh;4-1;182;24
24. Ball St.;7-0;166;25
25. California;4-1;115;—


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Posted 10/12/2008 12:22:13 PM


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I was wondering if that would happen. What poll is that cause the AP poll doesn't matter, just the coaches poll? When does the BCS come out. I would think the computer polls would be kind to Alabama though Texas probably has the biggest win against Oklahoma.

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Posted 10/12/2008 1:58:02 PM
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1st BCS show is tonight at 7  on FSN.
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Posted 10/12/2008 2:04:44 PM


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The AP poll has always had more weight than the coaches poll , which is more of a popularity contest anyway

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Posted 10/12/2008 2:22:16 PM


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Pourman, I'd consider the AP much more of a popularity contest than the coaches. The AP doesn't even count towards the BCS anymore does it? That is why I say it really doesn't matter.

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Posted 10/12/2008 2:43:49 PM


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The AP, in my opinion, IS the poll.
The BCS has too many factors that do not make sense.


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Posted 10/12/2008 3:51:52 PM


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The AP, in my opinion, IS the poll.
it was always my understanding that the AP is the "real" poll , the coaches poll just came out , the AP has been around since the first days of College Football


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Posted 10/12/2008 4:14:27 PM


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The AP, in my opinion, IS the poll.
it was always my understanding that the AP is the "real" poll , the coaches poll just came out , the AP has been around since the first days of College Football


The BCS doesn't even take the AP into consideration, so really, it means nothing. The BCS considers the coaches poll, the harris poll and then 6 computer generated rankings.


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Posted 10/12/2008 4:43:28 PM


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The AP, in my opinion, IS the poll.
it was always my understanding that the AP is the "real" poll , the coaches poll just came out , the AP has been around since the first days of College Football


The BCS doesn't even take the AP into consideration, so really, it means nothing. The BCS considers the coaches poll, the harris poll and then 6 computer generated rankings.

True but untrue all at once.

The AP voters requested that BCS not involve them. They (a ton of experts) decided the BCS was screwed up that they wanted nothing to do with it.

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Posted 10/12/2008 4:52:19 PM


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I don't agree with the BCS either but what I was getting at is, at the end of the day, being #1 in the ESPN Coaches Poll will help you get into the national championship game. Being #1 in the AP poll will get you in the paper but it's not worth anymore than the mullet wrapper you're reading it from.

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Posted 10/12/2008 5:00:26 PM


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JoeZ (10/12/2008)
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JoeZ (10/12/2008)
The AP, in my opinion, IS the poll.
it was always my understanding that the AP is the "real" poll , the coaches poll just came out , the AP has been around since the first days of College Football


The BCS doesn't even take the AP into consideration, so really, it means nothing. The BCS considers the coaches poll, the harris poll and then 6 computer generated rankings.


True but untrue all at once.

The AP voters requested that BCS not involve them. They (a ton of experts) decided the BCS was screwed up that they wanted nothing to do with it.


While I definitely don't think the BCS is perfect, if you want to play in the National Championship game, you go by the BCS poll.


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Posted 10/13/2008 11:25:07 AM


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I'm glad they stayed #2 at this stage of the season. I think it's harder on a team being #1, you got a huge target on your back and there is no where to move to but DOWN.

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Posted 10/13/2008 5:26:06 PM


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come on PENN STATE!

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Posted 10/14/2008 11:13:42 AM
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Here's a little history of college football polls that I found.

In 1926, Frank Dickinson, an economics professor at the University of Illinois, developed a system based on quality of opponents and scoring differentials, similar to many of today's "power rating" methods (except that he had to do it by hand instead of using a computer).

Dickinson chose national champions for 1924 and 1925, as well as 1926, and he continued selecting champions through 1940. Similar systems were devised by Dick Dunkel Sr. in 1929, by Paul Williams in 1932, and by Edward E. and Frank Litkenhous in 1934.

In 1936, the Associated Press began its annual poll of sportswriters and sportscasters. United Press initiated a poll of college coaches in 1950 and the International News Service began polling its own sportswriters in 1952. When they merged into United Press International, the coaches' poll became the UPI poll.

Other organizations got onto the poll bandwagon in the 1950s, most notably the Football Writers Association of America in 1954 and the National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame in 1959.

One problem these polls faced for many years was that they came out with their final results a few days after the regular season ended, and bowl games sometimes made those results look questionable.

The FWAA in 1955 began conducting its final poll after the bowls. AP did the same in 1965, then went back to a pre-bowl poll for the next two seasons. Since 1968, however, the final AP poll has been taken after the bowl results. The NFFHF began doing so in 1971, UP in 1974.

In the meantime, the UP/UPI poll of coaches became the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) poll, which moved to USA Today/CNN in 1991 and to USA Today/ESPN in 1997.

Two organizations, the College Football Researchers Association (CFRA) and the National Championship Foundation (NCF), conducted polls of their members to determine national champions beginning with the 1869 season, when the first college "football" game was played--even though it was actually soccer.

The Helms Athletic Foundation (HAF) conducted a similar poll of members beginning in 1883, the first year that American football used a point scoring system.

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