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Posted 10/20/2008 7:52:50 PM
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A friend who works on the base told me they were going through a lot of cut backs at NAS, and one of them was staffing for patrolling the shore for boaters within 500 ft.  Therefore they were going to lift the ban of fishing within 500ft.  Can anybody verify this?
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Posted 10/21/2008 2:37:19 PM


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I hope this is true.I never understood why they let over one million visitors from all over the world on base each year to drive around and site see and to visit the museum. But let one local person drive his boat down the beach never steeping foot on dry land and they are ready to throw you under the jail.

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Posted 10/21/2008 3:40:19 PM
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As far as I know, it wasn't enforced this summer. I had the FWC guy mention it, but that was it. I didn't see the grey patrol boats all year, and I fished anywhere from 4 to 6 days a week all summer long by NAS. 

I hope they lift the restriction. I can see having restricted areas around the boats and stuff, but it doesn't make since for everything else to be off limits. The base in Mississippi lets people fish pretty much anywhere, and it is running active missions. Isn't P'cola NAS just a training base?

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Posted 10/21/2008 5:15:03 PM


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My uncle is the chief fire fighter out there, and i Heard form him a while back that there were rumors they were going to shut the base down as far as military operations and leave it as a "resort base" for active military. As well as open it to more tourists to visit the museums, forts, and golf courses out there.

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Posted 10/21/2008 6:10:20 PM


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NAS Pensacola is going to be here for awhile with the addition of some Air Force commands from a BRAC closing in San Antonio. I have not seen any of the patrol boats either this year.

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Posted 10/21/2008 6:59:51 PM


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The base has been gradually backing off of the security measures out in place post 9/11 and this is just another part of it
As for the "resort", not hardly, I've been there 15 yrs and if anything, expect activity to ramp up


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Posted 10/22/2008 9:38:13 PM


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As long as we are in a "state of war" they will have that buffer. I can't imagine what it is going to stop. BESIDES THERE IS NO GOOD FIHING NEAR THE BASE ANYWAY. The boats may not be out there but there are still security guys in the white trucks that will tell you to leave if you get to close, but not that often, just remember if that guy tells you to go be nice those numbers on the side of your boat will give you away.

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Posted 10/22/2008 10:22:11 PM


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As far as there being no fish.In the past  and as recent as a mounth ago i have caught almost everything that swims off the base while on my boat.35# grouper..180# black tip..25#plus kings..white trout ,blue fish,flounder,trigger fish, red snapper,black snapper to mention just a few.I have been chased off a few times but never resulted in a problem.I have seen people fishing off the wall by the turning basin so maybe they ARE easeing up on the reg's.

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Posted 10/23/2008 9:40:18 AM


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I heard the same thing. I heard about the cut backs last year. I heard from my co-workers here on base that they pulled in the bouys. But when I was out on the weekend of the 11th there was bouys at the refueling dock, west of sherman. I haven't checked the bouys at the piers lately.

You have seen people fishing on the big peir on Saturdays because they have a fishing tournyment put on as fund-raisers. 10.00 a person and a prize at the end of the day. Weigh in is at 1400 on it starts at 0600. If you are military, active or retired, DOD employee, or dependant then come on and fish.

I on the other hand, fish the piers at evening or night. I have been run off, but not in a long time. When they come by and kick you out, just say ok, thanks and move on. I try my luck and sometimes I am only there for 5 mins before they show up, other times I may not get told to leave all night.

There are 4 CAMERAS there, so your not being as sneaky as you think when trying to get in close. 2 cameras on the big pier. One looking into the U and one looking out of the U. It is just a matter if the have the manning or the time to bust you or not. Before the fence was put up and before I got my boat. We used to get there before day break and fish until we got busted and told to leave.



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Posted 10/23/2008 11:40:21 AM


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I guess your definition of poor fishing near the base but be related to trying to find a Marlin or something because I've always caught something decent and I'm a strictly shore fisherman. But hey more room for me to fish. Anyway, last tourney of the year coming up in a few weeks

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Posted 10/23/2008 1:03:18 PM


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I went by the area west of Alleghenny Pier (near the Pipes) a week ago and noticed that the boundary buoys were no longer there.  It had been a few months since I went by that area, so I guess storms could have damaged them?  If not, why would NAS remove the buoys?

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Posted 10/23/2008 2:00:36 PM


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There are 4CAMERAS there, so your not being as sneaky as you think when trying to get in close. 2 cameras on the bigpier. One looking into the U and one looking out of the U.


There are more than that, and intentionally not obvious. They have spent money recently on CCTV, and its not over yet. They are watching, and recording all activity. Perhaps some patrolling budget dollars have been incorporated to CCTV. I could tell ya where they are, but as they say, "then I would have to kill ya"

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Posted 10/23/2008 4:19:20 PM


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There are more than that, and intentionally not obvious. They have spent money recently on CCTV, and its not over yet. They are watching, and recording all activity.



I was going to say the same thing. There are a lot of cameras...


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Posted 10/23/2008 5:28:27 PM


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There are 28 cameras, all recording.  All you civilian terrorists need to steer clear of from my private fishing holes unless you want to end up in Guantanamo.

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Posted 10/24/2008 1:32:40 PM


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lol, I am corrected. Thanks for the information. I only saw the 4, but for obvious reasons there would be more. Thanks for the correction.



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Posted 10/24/2008 3:09:40 PM
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I'll fish there ifn's I wants to.

I like fish that fry up real nice
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Posted 10/24/2008 3:19:50 PM
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Who cares if there are cameras there. Fishing isn't illegal, so as long as you ain't breaking the law the cameras are a non issue. I'm all for more cameras and no patrol boats!

They took a bunch of buoys out, but not all of them.

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Posted 10/26/2008 7:48:43 PM


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I guess the no fish near the base being in all caps was not clear, ITS WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE, one squinty eye, an elbow.
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Posted 10/27/2008 5:17:16 AM
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A buddy of mine just got ticketed $150.00 for fishing within 500 ft of a pier last weekend so you guys can try your luck too lol.... The MP said there are a total of 30 cameras watching over the pier areas. I don't know if it was true but somehow they knew my buddy was out there lol...
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Posted 10/27/2008 5:18:50 AM
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Has anyone else recently got ticketed out there?
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I got ticketed yesterday day i got a 150.00 fine but the base cop said i could get up to a 500 dollar fine. i know i wont do that again.Plus the fishing sucked only cats there. But i heard about the cams to. if i knew i would not have gone there.back to pickens i go. i woulnt try it if i were u guys.
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Posted 10/29/2008 9:21:29 AM


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I got ticketed yesterday day i got a 150.00 fine but the base cop said i could get up to a 500 dollar fine. i know i wont do that again.Plus the fishing sucked only cats there. But i heard about the cams to. if i knew i would not have gone there.back to pickens i go. i woulnt try it if i were u guys.

Where/who do you have to pay the $150 to?  Federal magistrate?  Was the base cop in a boat or on shore?

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Posted 10/29/2008 9:26:01 AM


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I got ticketed yesterday day i got a 150.00 fine but the base cop said i could get up to a 500 dollar fine. i know i wont do that again.Plus the fishing sucked only cats there. But i heard about the cams to. if i knew i would not have gone there.back to pickens i go. i woulnt try it if i were u guys.


Where were you? Were you on a boat or did you get off your boat and get onshore?

I see it like this, if there are no boundary buoys there, how is stupid lil' ol' me gonna know I'm not supposed to fish there?? I fish around the back entrance and the fuel dock and I've never been ticketed...by a person or by a camera that caught me.


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I got ticketed yesterday day i got a 150.00 fine but the base cop said i could get up to a 500 dollar fine. i know i wont do that again.Plus the fishing sucked only cats there. But i heard about the cams to. if i knew i would not have gone there.back to pickens i go. i woulnt try it if i were u guys.


Where were you? Were you on a boat or did you get off your boat and get onshore?

I see it like this, if there are no boundary buoys there, how is stupid lil' ol' me gonna know I'm not supposed to fish there?? I fish around the back entrance and the fuel dock and I've never been ticketed...by a person or by a camera that caught me.

Just like the no fishing within a distance at the Picken's pier, there are signs all along the sea wall and pier that say to stay away at least 500 feet.  There are no buoys marking the distance around the Picken's peir.  But you can bet that they will write you a ticket.

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I have a call into the Port OP's Officer.  When he returns my call I'll get the scoop and post it.  Anyone that has any specific questions please post them. 

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Posted 10/29/2008 9:54:49 AM


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I got ticketed yesterday day i got a 150.00 fine but the base cop said i could get up to a 500 dollar fine. i know i wont do that again.Plus the fishing sucked only cats there. But i heard about the cams to. if i knew i would not have gone there.back to pickens i go. i woulnt try it if i were u guys.


Where were you? Were you on a boat or did you get off your boat and get onshore?

I see it like this, if there are no boundary buoys there, how is stupid lil' ol' me gonna know I'm not supposed to fish there?? I fish around the back entrance and the fuel dock and I've never been ticketed...by a person or by a camera that caught me.


Just like the no fishing within a distance at the Picken's pier, there are signs all along the sea wall and pier that say to stay away at least 500 feet. There are no buoys marking the distance around the Picken's peir. But you can bet that they will write you a ticket.


Where I sometimes fish, there are no signs or buoys...that includes the fuel dock.


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Posted 10/29/2008 12:50:35 PM


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Ok, I talked to the man at Port OP's and this is the scoop as I understood it.

  They have just replaced all of the exclusion boueys that were missing/removed during hurricain season.  The rules have not changed and he knows of no plans to change them.  Most of the patroling of the piers and beaches is now done by base security and they don't write citations.  If someone doesn't listen to them or is a repeat offender they contact FWC or USCG who can issue citations.  The security cameras are there for just that, security.  They are not used to write fishing/exclusion zone citations but if you are considered a security risk that could change.

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I don't get the whole Navy buffer zone thing.  They let a million people drive on to NAS every year to see the museum and cemetary, but they won't let anyone wet a hook within 500' of the shoreline.  Oh yeah.....and the same non-military folks they let on to see the museum can go sit on the sea wall that says "stay back 500 feet".

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The bouys in the bay on the east side of NAS near NATTC are gone from the entrance to Bayou Grande to Allegheny Pier..  Is that area clear for floundering?
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I don't get the whole Navy buffer zone thing.  They let a million people drive on to NAS every year to see the museum and cemetary, but they won't let anyone wet a hook within 500' of the shoreline.  Oh yeah.....and the same non-military folks they let on to see the museum can go sit on the sea wall that says "stay back 500 feet".

Actually, no you can not go sit on that wall.   There are signs on base directing folks that are non-military etc... away from those areas.  These signs are nice and big with red flashing lights saying that un-authorized persons are subject to arrest if found in these areas.

These signs are posted everywhere except the Museum area, the cemetery, and Sherman Cove etc...  So no a person without a base sticker and proper ID can not be in those areas. 

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