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Posted 10/29/2008 2:40:25 PM


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cubfan (10/29/2008)
The bouys in the bay on the east side of NAS near NATTC are gone from the entrance to Bayou Grande to Allegheny Pier..  Is that area clear for floundering?

cubfan,  As I said, I was told they just finished replacing all missing bouys so my guess is that you will find them all back in place next time you look.

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Posted 10/29/2008 2:43:51 PM


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The bouys in the bay on the east side of NAS near NATTC are gone from the entrance to Bayou Grande to Allegheny Pier..  Is that area clear for floundering?

cubfan,  As I said, I was told they just finished replacing all missing bouys so my guess is that you will find them all back in place next time you look.

I just fished Portside on NAS yesterday and their were buoys out there.  But I could not see down the beach to see if they were all the way down to Bayou Grande.

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Posted 10/29/2008 3:10:37 PM
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im all for those buoys!!!  i know if a terrorist that is planning on attacking the base see's those buoys he will turn around and go home and wont attack.

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Posted 10/29/2008 3:24:31 PM
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There are a bunch of new buoys that have been put out in the last few days. They weren't missing from the storm, they pulled them up because they were starting to sink from all of the marine growth.
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Posted 10/29/2008 3:48:51 PM


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I don't get the whole Navy buffer zone thing.  They let a million people drive on to NAS every year to see the museum and cemetary, but they won't let anyone wet a hook within 500' of the shoreline.  Oh yeah.....and the same non-military folks they let on to see the museum can go sit on the sea wall that says "stay back 500 feet".

Actually, no you can not go sit on that wall.   There are signs on base directing folks that are non-military etc... away from those areas.  These signs are nice and big with red flashing lights saying that un-authorized persons are subject to arrest if found in these areas.

These signs are posted everywhere except the Museum area, the cemetery, and Sherman Cove etc...  So no a person without a base sticker and proper ID can not be in those areas. 

Okay......I'm retired military with a proper I.D. and a vehicle sticker.  I can sit on the wall that says "stay back 500' " and fish, but I still can't fish from my boat on the same strip of water.  It's just plain stupid.  And it's not like there's anything for terrorists to blow up anyway.

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Posted 10/29/2008 8:54:54 PM


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u calling me a liar that i got a 150.00 fine i see.u dont have to pay the darn thing. i do. i was just letting people know.
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Posted 10/29/2008 9:21:15 PM
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NOPE I BELIEVE YOU TROYGOT2fish. I just got off the phone with my buddy and it was a base cop who wrote him the ticket. He said him and another boat got ticketed. The Captain of the other boat is named Santee and he was in a 17 ft cape horn.... They both got ticketed at night. He said it was a fat black MP that called them over and cited them. Sorry Seacapt I don't know who misinformed you. MP's give tickets to cars speeding on their base why wouldn't they be able to ticket boats violating their rules?
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Posted 10/29/2008 9:34:02 PM
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I also think the zone is a joke. I got run off from the bridge at the main gate a few times. Once I was catching flounder at the rocks in the channel of bayou grande and they said I was on the base side of the channel and had to move. That channel is only about 40 ft wide! What a mess.
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Posted 10/29/2008 9:42:15 PM


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troygot2fish (10/29/2008)
u calling me a liar that i got a 150.00 fine i see.u dont have to pay the darn thing. i do. i was just letting people know.

I don't see where anybody called you a liar?

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Posted 10/30/2008 7:10:42 AM
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what happens if you just dont pay the military ticket?  what recourse do they have over a civilian?  when i was a sp in the air force the most we could do is detain for civilian authorities unless it was a direct threat against a priority resource.  i guess they can ban you from the base.  i havent been out there since they closed the boat launch to civilians and thats has been a looong time ago. 

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Posted 10/30/2008 7:28:57 AM


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nextstep (10/30/2008)
what happens if you just dont pay the military ticket?  what recourse do they have over a civilian?  when i was a sp in the air force the most we could do is detain for civilian authorities unless it was a direct threat against a priority resource.  i guess they can ban you from the base.  i havent been out there since they closed the boat launch to civilians and thats has been a looong time ago. 

This is from the NASP Police Dept. website. 

 
The NAS Police Department aggressively enforces all traffic regulations on Federal property. If you receive a traffic ticket on any of the area installations with a MANDATORY court appearance, you MUST appear in traffic court on the date specified on the citation.

Failure to appear will result in the revocation of your base driving privileges. Additionally, military personnel will be subject to UCMJ action.

If you are a civilian or are non-base connected and receive a Federal Magistrate citation with a MANDATORY court appearance, the court will notify you of the date.

If you have questions regarding traffic citations, call 452-9242


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Posted 10/30/2008 8:54:04 AM
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Quote:  "Where I sometimes fish, there are no signs or buoys...that includes the fuel dock"

The exclusionary markers are back in Big Lagoon, and that includes the fuel dock.

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Posted 10/30/2008 1:10:02 PM


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Fishing inside the boundries is considered trespassing on Federal property. The DOD Police can ticket you or arrest you. They USUALLY give you a warning and write down some information in case they catch you there again. They do not have to warn you, they can ticket or arrest you on a first offense.

On the new bay charts the area is suppose to be listed as restricted, I haven't seen one so I can not confirm that. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, just remember that. I was reminded it.

I have been caught and warned. I asked a lot of the same questions because I didn't realize I was inside the buoys at the time.

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Posted 11/4/2008 10:40:46 AM
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I have been ran off a few times.
I just make it a rule of thumb to:

A) Do not anchor
B) Don't stay long
C) Catch your fish and move on.

I have caught plenty of nice black snappers, flounder, slot-red, and grouper by idling the boat and bumping for position.

It's easy enough to drift fish with out creating any problems.
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Posted 11/4/2008 12:07:51 PM


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polebenda (10/29/2008)
NOPE I BELIEVE YOU TROYGOT2fish. I just got off the phone with my buddy and it was a base cop who wrote him the ticket. He said him and another boat got ticketed. The Captain of the other boat is named Santee and he was in a 17 ft cape horn.... They both got ticketed at night. He said it was a fat black MP that called them over and cited them. Sorry Seacapt I don't know who misinformed you. MP's give tickets to cars speeding on their base why wouldn't they be able to ticket boats violating their rules?

OK...  As I said earlier I talked to the head of Port OP's so now I just got off the phone with base Security.  They said the don't write citations for boats in the restricted zone.  Period.  They also said, as Port OP's said, if there are citations writen it will only be done by FWC or the Coast Guard.  Bottom line is that the area is restricted.  You shouldn't be there.  It's not NAS Pensacola's decision, it's a Navy Regulation for all Naval bases.  If anyone insists that they have been ticketed by base police I would like to see a copy so I can get it figured out once and for all.

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