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I'll be there.
 
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Hyer Standards is in!!! looks like its going to be a tough weekend of fishing
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Mingo
      
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| Gave it some serious thought, but with blue water having moved out and reports of MS river trash all over the place we are going to pass and hope water cleans up before MBGFC Jr. Angler on 7/4 Good luck MScontender
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Mingo
      
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we're in.
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water conditions are keeping us out of this one , i know some boats heading out alot farther than our range and striking out big time, We will being playing cheerleaders on this one. Maybe the pbgfa international, this fishing might pick up.
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Mingo
      
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change of plans..got our initial roffers .WE ARE OUT!!!!!! THERE IS NOOOOO BLUE WATER
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| Can we say repeat from last years water clarity again i thought we might get lucky earlier around may early june but i was WRONG . Good thing for bottom bumping . TIM
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Mingo
      
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feel free to pm me with some of your bottom bumping numbers recess. from your pics, you look like you have some incredible spots
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| Some of you are obviously not viewing the same pay sites and other reports that I am. There is currently blue/green water just east of the Nipple at the Spur and all over Squiggles. There is a large BLUE push south of the Spur. While the rigs to the west don't look good at this time, alot can change in 4 days. Regardless, there is without a doubt fishable water within a 45 mile run of Orange Beach. This water pattern is completely normal and expected for this time of the year. The fishing will be good to the east, I have reports of several billfish being released between the Nipple and Squiggles just yesterday. I have been on boats in the last 3 years that have tagged 3 blues over 250 pounds in green water at the Nipple/Elbow. Water color really doesn't mean all that much, it is definetily helpul and funner to fish but meatfish/billfish are always in areas with ample underwater structure (Nipple, Elbow, Spur, etc.) no matter what the water color is. This is common knowledge that can't be argued. I don't understand how some people continue to loose site of this fact. Team Stallion is in and is just glad to have an outboard only tournament to fish in. 
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Cigar Minnow
      
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Yeah, we're still fishing it too. The water is blue /green from the nipple to the spur, or at least that's what Roff's says.
It's gonna be a good tournament. If you billfish regularly, and you have a smaller outboard vessel, then you should
fish this tournament.
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Cigar Minnow
      
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Before you naysayers start checking out, ask yourself these questions...- How many times a year does an affordable, fun, small boat billfish tournament come around per year?
- How often does the forecast call for 1-3 footers on the exact day of a small boat tournament?
- How many opportunities are there to win one of these tournaments with a wahoo or tuna if no billfish are tagged?
I've seen and read the reports and there are a couple of fine looking spots in range. If you decide not to fish, you seriously need to consider visiting your local probate office and having your driver's license amended to read- Sex: Not quite sure. Now sprinkle some 13-13-13 in your pants and grow a set. Team Red Rocket is in.
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| HAHA!! That was awesome. There is plenty of fishable water out there and I recieved some very promising reports from reputable people yesterday so I'm ready. I'm not quite sure of what online sat. imaging service ya'll are using cause the 2 I use show plenty of fishable water.
 
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ROPES   Amen!! That is what I wanted to say in my earlier post, you took the words right out of my mouth!!! Next time I will not beat around the bush..... Now we just have to get cliffk and mscontendor back in the tournament so we can win their money!! Reports are looking good and there is plenty of fishable water. See you at captain's meeting. 
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Stallion (6/17/2009)
Now we just have to get cliffk and mscontendor back in the tournament so we can win their money!! 
easy there cowboy. you dont want us in this rodeo of yours. i am getting another roff's tomorrow that will be the deciding factor. so far, we are 60/40 no to yes. there is still a glimmer of hope for you that we wont enter and take your money. 
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Ruby Red Lip
      
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| All in good fun cliffk, don't take it the wrong way. That Palmetto is a fine ride, you got plenty of range? Hope to see you there. 
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i was also kidding. what calcuttas you guys thinking about getting in? half of the tournaments i have fished, you can win more in the 100 and 250 rather than the 500 due to number of entries. but the verdict is still out. let you guys know tomorrow.
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| We are thinking along the same lines as you, we're going wherever the money is. I just called OB Marina and they will have an updated calcutta display available at the captain's meeting so that participants can determine where other participants are putting money. We are just going to wait and see regarding the calcutta.
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Stallion (6/16/2009)
Some of you are obviously not viewing the same pay sites and other reports that I am. There is currently blue/green water just east of the Nipple at the Spur and all over Squiggles. There is a large BLUE push south of the Spur. While the rigs to the west don't look good at this time, alot can change in 4 days. Regardless, there is without a doubt fishable water within a 45 mile run of Orange Beach. This water pattern is completely normal and expected for this time of the year. The fishing will be good to the east, I have reports of several billfish being released between the Nipple and Squiggles just yesterday. I have been on boats in the last 3 years that have tagged 3 blues over 250 pounds in green water at the Nipple/Elbow. Water color really doesn't mean all that much, it is definetily helpul and funner to fish but meatfish/billfish are always in areas with ample underwater structure (Nipple, Elbow, Spur, etc.) no matter what the water color is. This is common knowledge that can't be argued. I don't understand how some people continue to loose site of this fact. Team Stallion is in and is just glad to have an outboard only tournament to fish in.  I would love to know what pay sites you are looking at.............cause the one's I use don't show any of that. And yes, you occasionally will have some stragglers in green water, but for the most part its a waste of time. Ask all the boats that went WAY out this weekend and found a lot of that green water. A few dolphin caught, one sailfish and one blue marlin yesterday. Good luck where ever you go, hope you find some fishable water.
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| Roffs and Hiltons. Just got today's update and the blue/green water is still just east of nipple, all the way south to Spur and extending to the Squiggles. The relatively large blended blue finger is still just south of the Spur in the Canyon, been there for going on 3 days now. Again, no matter what the water color is in areas such as Nipple, Elbow, 131 hole, and Spur, there will be fish. This point has been proven time after time over the years. Underwater bottom terrain = bait, meatfish, pelagics......... I agree with you on the rigs to the west, when the water isn't good, it's a waste of time.
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 This is what i see on all three websites , but what you say is true there are good fish being caught ever day but we are not rich men by any means and 2,000 is not reasonable for us on a forcast of water and current fishing we have done every log, barrel, and weedline for the last 3 weeks for us have been barren and i mean barren with no fish but i have heard of some "ok" reports , i Guess i just have to grow a set of balls like someone said. Good luck to all that are fishing whether in the tournament or not. can't wait to see the results i hope yall slay them. TIM
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| To those who do not fish: Saturday morning, as you head over to pick up your wife's McCafe', the morning sun will be glaring through your windshield. Right about the time you reach for your sunglasses, you'll sense that gut feeling of regret. About the time your bagging the last bit of lawn clippings, the rest of us will be plug tuggin up and down a rip, spilling 30% of our bud lights while yelling normal conversation over Waylon blasting on the radio. Maybe if your lucky, the WE channel will aire some Golden Girls reruns Saturday night to keep you from thinking about all of us weighing in and telling stories. We'll be on 72 if you need us.
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| Thanks Recess..........thats exactly what mine shows. blended blue/green sse of squiggles and that is the closest..........just wanted to make sure hiltons didnt give me some bogas site and Stallion the real one. Good luck boys
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| Picture perfect weather w/ seas now forecast 1' or less and 24hrs w/ group of old friends and cold beer. My boat might not catch a weed, but if there's a calcutta for fun we're going to win. You go ahead and let your computer tell you it's going to suck.
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| Caspr21 and Recess (and all other non believers): Guide to interpreting the 2 primary resources Gulf Coast fisherman have available to determine offshore conditions: Hilton's is primarily good for altimetry (showing up and down wellings). Hilton's is not the most accurate source on water color due tho the complexity of the color map (as shown above in your earlier post) and having to determine the difference in the color legend provided. It is nearly impossible. Don't get me wrong, Hilton's is a great tool - but it has its strengths and weaknesses and determining true water color is its major weakness. ROFFS, on the other hand, is the only source professionals use for determining true water color. It is clearly labeled (no pulling out a color spectrum to decide what a certain shade of blue/green means) and it superimposes water color/currents/temperature/rips over the notable areas we all fish in the Gulf. You have to use the 2 tools in conjunction with one another, not individually. Most if not all professional crews use this method, that is where I learned it from some time ago. These crews fish for a living and know alot more than you and I, period....... Caspr21 - Learn how to use the tools available before you insinuate that I am lying. You might need to subscribe to Roffs.  Again, Roffs has the same conditions as I reported yesterday. The is blue/green water in close east of Nipple, to Spur and over to the Squiggles As Ropes has noted, enjoy being bossed around the house on Saturday by your significant other when the rest of us are enjoying cold beer and calm seas.
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| One more thing: Roffs updates every day. Hilton's does not - ask anyone that subscribes to it. Again, I am not bad talking any one service, just objectively pointed out the noted differences between the two.
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Stallion (6/18/2009)
Caspr21 and Recess (and all other non believers): Guide to interpreting the 2 primary resources Gulf Coast fisherman have available to determine offshore conditions: Hilton's is primarily good for altimetry (showing up and down wellings). Hilton's is not the most accurate source on water color due tho the complexity of the color map (as shown above in your earlier post) and having to determine the difference in the color legend provided. It is nearly impossible. Don't get me wrong, Hilton's is a great tool - but it has its strengths and weaknesses and determining true water color is its major weakness. ROFFS, on the other hand, is the only source professionals use for determining true water color. It is clearly labeled (no pulling out a color spectrum to decide what a certain shade of blue/green means) and it superimposes water color/currents/temperature/rips over the notable areas we all fish in the Gulf. You have to use the 2 tools in conjunction with one another, not individually. Most if not all professional crews use this method, that is where I learned it from some time ago. These crews fish for a living and know alot more than you and I, period....... Caspr21 - Learn how to use the tools available before you insinuate that I am lying. You might need to subscribe to Roffs.  Again, Roffs has the same conditions as I reported yesterday. The is blue/green water in close east of Nipple, to Spur and over to the Squiggles As Ropes has noted, enjoy being bossed around the house on Saturday by your significant other when the rest of us are enjoying cold beer and calm seas. Seriously???? So what your telling me is that Roff's has a different sat that can see through the clouds everyday every hour, every minute and is the only one that can give you the most current up to date real time imagery???? Come on you can't be that guy. I have used Roff's for years. And several times thrown that thing overboard because when you get out there is it NOTHING like what they posted. I hate to be the one to tell you, but unless they get a clear shot, they run a 3-7 day loop, just as all the other does. Read the second page that you get on the print out. I also hate to tell you, they use cholorphyll counts, currents and water temp, as do all the other sites, and then they use some guy sitting behind that computer screen to superimpose all this for people like you that have this imagination that Roff's is the fishing God or something. Maybe you just need to learn how to use your Hiltons and your "other pay sites" before you come on here blabbing your knowledge of where you know all the fish are. And most of your PROFESSIONAL crews use all of the sites. But thank you SO much for the lession in big game fishing. Ask a few people who followed Roffs last weekend and went down past the double nipple looking for the line that Roffs stated was there and pushing east up to the spur. Probably a reason they picked up and ran home during the mid day. Listen, all I stated was that there is green water, EVERYWHERE. It shows the same signs as last year, and good luck this weekend and hope you find some fishable water. 
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Just like caspr said, I'll take true reports over a Roff's anytime. Keep on ordering those Roffers reports and eventually you will get fed up with them. In the past we have chased those supposed blue/blue-green pushes only to never find them. Dont get me wrong, they have been useful at other times, but they are not the only source for fishing. I would go down and read your blue water reports section, and see the amount of boats that were out last weekend that didn't do much. Good luck out there this weekend, Wes you think we could talk ole beachwacker into running us over to Mcrae?
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| You have your beliefs and I have mine. My reasoning has resulted in successful trips much more than it has not. It is all a crap shoot as you know. However, your response regarding what people reported last weekend is simply foolish though. You know that things can change overnight in the Gulf. What someone did last weekend or even a few days has no bearing on what a later trip will do. For all I know, those reports could be from inexperieced anglers that have no clue what they are doing nor any business being 60 miles offshore fishing on a 20 foot single screw boat pulling zebcos with McDonald's straws as lures. Consider the source when you put all your faith in a report. (Remember the world was flat until Columbus proved them wrong!). Besides what reports are you talking about? 4 PRPFESSIONAL crews that fished MBGFC ladies day last weekend called me with first hand reports of good action just south of the spur, at the squiggles and northeast of the double nipple. One boat had 5 shots at blue marlin over 2 days of fishing. My crew tagged 2 blues, 6 whites, 1 sailfish among uncountable loads of meatfish last year on 6 offshore trips. What did you do? I have the proof to back up my comments, do you?????  I can with 95% certaintly guarantee you that if you were to troll the Nipple/Elbow this weekend for 8 hours, you will have atleast one shot at a pelagic. Now go fix yourself a Latte and prepare for yardwork on Saturday.
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