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| that snake was no different than a loaded pistol, left unattended. I feel bad for the 2 year old.
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angus_cow_doctor (7/1/2009)
that snake was no different than a loaded pistol, left unattended. I feel bad for the 2 year old. sorry man but i have never heard of a loaded gun slithering off the table and crawling into someone room and squeezing them to death.
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angus_cow_doctor (7/1/2009)
that snake was no different than a loaded pistol, left unattended. I feel bad for the 2 year old. sorry man but i have never heard of a loaded gun slithering off the table and crawling into someone room and squeezing them to death. Well, kind of has a point there. The point was it was an accident waiting to happen. Like me, beer and fireworks.
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| rather be shot dead than sqeezed to death. Thats what would bother me the most about an accidental death of one of my kids, a slow death where they know its comeing, probably screaming for help, struggling, and then died. Basically living the horror of hte death Sort of like drowning.
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spear em (7/1/2009)
angus_cow_doctor (7/1/2009)
that snake was no different than a loaded pistol, left unattended.
I feel bad for the 2 year old.
sorry man but i have never heard of a loaded gun slithering off the table and crawling into someone room and squeezing them to death.
What a horrible story. Makes two of us spear em, not a very good analogy. I'm quite sure I have never had to give my Glock a live rabbit to eat either.
Snakes don't make good pets, sorry to all of the snake dukes on this forum, I know you are out there and will pile on me promptly. I don't mind small non venomous snakes in my yard either, I'm not some a hole who is of the "only good snake is a dead snake" mentality so save those comments. But I don't think anyone should have large snakes that kill & eat small animals instinctively in an aquarium or some other "enclosure" in their homes. Its simply ridiculous.
Yeah snake guy, we see you, you're mysterious, you have snake, very cool. Trust me, your friends who don't have snakes think its weird too, they don't tell you that, but they do. And no, no one over the age of 12 wants to touch it either. That is what Zoos are for.
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I think what he is trying to say is like with anything else if you dont act responsibly with whatever you have be it a gun or a snake it can kill someone or cause great harm. I had a ball python and it prolly couldnt kill you and prolly wouldnt try but when I had my daughter I got rid of it just for that reason. You never know. Its a shame to because there will prolly be charges brought and in the end its not gonna make the little girl come back and I am sure the boyfriend and the mother are beside themselves. Gave me chills when I read it.
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Fishwater (7/1/2009)
spear em (7/1/2009)
angus_cow_doctor (7/1/2009)
that snake was no different than a loaded pistol, left unattended.
I feel bad for the 2 year old. sorry man but i have never heard of a loaded gun slithering off the table and crawling into someone room and squeezing them to death. What a horrible story. Makes two of us spear em, not a very good analogy. I'm quite sure I have never had to give my Glock a live rabbit to eat either. Snakes don't make good pets, sorry to all of the snake dukes on this forum, I know you are out there and will pile on me promptly. I don't mind small non venomous snakes in my yard either, I'm not some a hole who is of the "only good snake is a dead snake" mentality so save those comments. But I don't think anyone should have large snakes that kill & eat small animals instinctively in an aquarium or some other "enclosure" in their homes. Its simply ridiculous. Yeah snake guy, we see you, you're mysterious, you have snake, very cool. Trust me, your friends who don't have snakes think its weird too, they don't tell you that, but they do. And no, no one over the age of 12 wants to touch it either. That is what Zoos are for. That's funny as hell. In my younger days I had some small snakes as pets, so I guess I fall into that category somewhat. But, I think I know about the REAL snake people out there. Usually has a pony tail and very much into World of Warcraft, keeps snakes because he thinks it makes him "edgy."
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| No different than that lady who was torn apart by the chimpanzee in conneticutt (I think thats where it happened anyway). That chimp was also the same as a loaded weapon. Dogs and cats make good pets. Rabbits make good pets. Some birds make good pets. Large exotic animals suck as pets. Monkeys also do not make good pets. Just a matter of time before someone gets hurt. Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye, hand, or 2 year old child.
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| I know a Wildlife Officer in South Florida that went to a week long training session on "Capture and Handling of Large Snakes." The first case he was called on was a 12 foot python. He said,"Screw it." and shot it.
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angus_cow_doctor (7/1/2009)
No different than that lady who was torn apart by the chimpanzee in conneticutt (I think thats where it happened anyway). That chimp was also the same as a loaded weapon. Dogs and cats make good pets. Rabbits make good pets. Some birds make good pets. Large exotic animals suck as pets. Monkeys also do not make good pets. Just a matter of time before someone gets hurt. Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye, hand, or 2 year old child. I agree...I dont think exotic snakes/lizards/fish from out of this country should be allowed as pets to anyone...Theyre dangerous to human/pet/habitat....Thats why there are millions of oscars and peacock bass in south Fl in canals and lakes now....Large lizards running wild around Gasparilla Island Fl killing cats/birds/small pets.....Large boas and such growin to God know how big in the forests just bacause folks are not responsible and do not consider consequences...Its all related to one word.."neglegence." Back to the other post you made comparing guns to the baby that was killed by the snake...I agree with that....bad case of neglegence and stupidity...I think folks should have the right to own guns but when they screw up like this whether it be with a snake or a gun they need some rights removed along with some jail time.
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| Question for Angus Cow Doctor: How much stronger would a 200 pound chimp be than a 200 pound man???
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| Probably a bad idea to have anything around the house that might get confused as to who is at the top of the food chain or who is in control of who. Obviously big reptiles are at the top of this list. But what about Pitbulls?
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alanbarck (7/1/2009)
Probably a bad idea to have anything around the house that might get confused as to who is at the top of the food chain or who is in control of who. Obviously big reptiles are at the top of this list. But what about Pitbulls?
I agree with the premise of your comment, but disagree with regards to including a Pit Bull in the statement. A Pit Bull is a dog, that can be trained, and will look to its master for boundaries and guidance (just like any other dog). If the owner is a douche who trains it to fight, then the dog will be a ferocious animal who seeks validation from its owner by attacking things (other dogs and animals... and maybe even people). Like any other dog, if the owner doesn't set boundaries, then the dog will up the ante until they find a boundary on their own. Yes, Pits may have more of a "guardian" disposition. It is in their genes. But it is not a natural born killer, like say... redheaded women! If the dog is trained and is tempered by the owner in a proper manner, then they should be like any other dog. I should know. My dad has one who is a big softhearted baby. He is a sweet dog who has never shown any aggression toward anyone.
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[quote] .... But it is not a natural born killer, like say... redheaded women! .... Yep they'll go straight for the throat, heart and wallet at the slightest provocation.
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You couldn't pay me enough to have one of those as a pet....but I know people who do have snakes (although none that big) as pets. I don't really have a problem with that, but as with anyone keeping any animal, there comes a responsibility with it. I can't see having a 12 foot python at home with a 2-year old baby - which would obviously be considered "food" for the snake, if it got out. Not to be judgemental about someone....but that was just plain stupid.
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bayou bandit (7/1/2009)
alanbarck (7/1/2009)
Probably a bad idea to have anything around the house that might get confused as to who is at the top of the food chain or who is in control of who. Obviously big reptiles are at the top of this list. But what about Pitbulls?
I agree with the premise of your comment, but disagree with regards to including a Pit Bull in the statement. A Pit Bull is a dog, that can be trained, and will look to its master for boundaries and guidance (just like any other dog). If the owner is a douche who trains it to fight, then the dog will be a ferocious animal who seeks validation from its owner by attacking things (other dogs and animals... and maybe even people). Like any other dog, if the owner doesn't set boundaries, then the dog will up the ante until they find a boundary on their own. Yes, Pits may have more of a "guardian" disposition. It is in their genes. But it is not a natural born killer, like say... redheaded women! If the dog is trained and is tempered by the owner in a proper manner, then they should be like any other dog. I should know. My dad has one who is a big softhearted baby. He is a sweet dog who has never shown any aggression toward anyone.
Google news for "dog attacks," tell me how many watercollies and labradoodles make the headlines for maiming and killing folks, or any other breed that is close to being responsible for as many attacks as a pit bull. It is indefensible.
I have been around pits that were alright, I know some of you have some that are great, but don't tell me that the breed isn't a problem. It happens weekly, someone is killed or maimed by a pit bull or worse, pit bulls. There is a reason why you are not allowed to own one in some cities or can't get homeowner's insurance while owning one. I don't see anyone kicking Springer Spaniels out of their cities.
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| weaver_brown: A 200 pound chimp can rip you limb from limb, and would make a game of it while doing it. It would likely rip off a hand or arm and beat you with it. I am far more scared of a chimp than I am of a mean cow/bull, a mean pit bull, or for that matter a mean red headed woman!
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Fishwater (7/2/2009)
bayou bandit (7/1/2009)
alanbarck (7/1/2009)
Probably a bad idea to have anything around the house that might get confused as to who is at the top of the food chain or who is in control of who. Obviously big reptiles are at the top of this list. But what about Pitbulls?
I agree with the premise of your comment, but disagree with regards to including a Pit Bull in the statement. A Pit Bull is a dog, that can be trained, and will look to its master for boundaries and guidance (just like any other dog). If the owner is a douche who trains it to fight, then the dog will be a ferocious animal who seeks validation from its owner by attacking things (other dogs and animals... and maybe even people). Like any other dog, if the owner doesn't set boundaries, then the dog will up the ante until they find a boundary on their own. Yes, Pits may have more of a "guardian" disposition. It is in their genes. But it is not a natural born killer, like say... redheaded women! If the dog is trained and is tempered by the owner in a proper manner, then they should be like any other dog. I should know. My dad has one who is a big softhearted baby. He is a sweet dog who has never shown any aggression toward anyone.
Google news for "dog attacks," tell me how many watercollies and labradoodles make the headlines for maiming and killing folks, or any other breed that is close to being responsible for as many attacks as a pit bull. It is indefensible.
I have been around pits that were alright, I know some of you have some that are great, but don't tell me that the breed isn't a problem. It happens weekly, someone is killed or maimed by a pit bull or worse, pit bulls. There is a reason why you are not allowed to own one in some cities or can't get homeowner's insurance while owning one. I don't see anyone kicking Springer Spaniels out of their cities.
Without looking it up, I will just go ahead and agree with you, that Pits have probably been guilty of attacks more than other breeds... but that is because the douchebag OWNERS of the dogs. It has nothing to do with the dog itself. They are preferred by those who fight dogs (Michael Vick ring a bell?), and those who train them to attack anything that steps onto their property (ever seen those episodes of Cops where they go to serve a warrant on some backwoods white trash redneck with a Pit in the yard). It is not like Pits sit around perfectly fine and just flip a switch that makes them say "I think I'm gonna go kill that elderly couple walking into the bingo parlor." ALL dogs are trainable, and will become what the owner trains them to be. Oh well, who cares...
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It is not like Pits sit around perfectly fine and just flip a switch that makes them say "I think I'm gonna go kill that elderly couple walking into the bingo parlor." ALL dogs are trainable, and will become what the owner trains them to be. Oh well, who cares...
does laughing at that make me a sick person? I second that. I used to have a Pit bull growing up. red, with a red nose. he was probably the biggest lover ever. he wouldnt even attack squirrels because any time he ever got aggressive with anything we beat the hell out of him and then lovewd on him every time he passed up a cat or whatever. didnt take long for him to just be a lover. they are perfectly trainable and very loyal dogs. im more afraid of little ankle biters because you cant really whip them when you train them or they might die.
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| I will say that I have seen WAY more mean chihuahua and other fru-fru dogs than I have pitbulls. Most mean pitbulls I saw were not socialized as puppies, and were trained using isolation and aggression encouragement techniques. Most people wanted them for yard dogs to protect against burglars (and in some cases law enforcement). I don't think anyone wants to outlaw people from having dogs or cats, but large exotic species should require a license to have.
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| Goes along side my argument of PITT BULLS, and all other vicious animals..... UNPREDICTABLE! Owners should have to carry 5 mill coverage as I do for working on your jobsite! Im a lot better controlled person than some animal, but I have to carry it~! Costs me 15K a year! Change ya mind of owning a freakin snake that might eat ya kids! STEVE HOLLOWAY
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BOHUNTER1 (7/2/2009)
Goes along side my argument of PITT BULLS, and all other vicious animals.....
UNPREDICTABLE!
Owners should have to carry 5 mill coverage as I do for working on your jobsite! Im a lot better controlled person than some animal, but I have to carry it~! Costs me 15K a year! Change ya mind of owning a freakin snake that might eat ya kids!
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pit bulls are unpredictable? you know what. so are kids. you should have to have 5 million dollars of insurance for having a kid.
calling a pit bull a vicious animal just makes you look like a jackass to me. there is nothing vicious about a pit bull. there is something vicious about anything that is raised from birth to be vicious. i've never owned a dog that wasn't a pit bull. I've never had a dog i owned bite anyone, ever.
you're bitter because you have to buy insurance for your company, the fact that you relate work related insurance coverage to owning a dog baffles me. you sir might get to be the first person i directly insult on this forum.
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| Google news for pit bulls, several more attacks over the holiday weekend. Spin it however you want, but statistics don't lie. Pits are more inclined to to unpredictable, aggressive behavior than any other breed.
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| The second meanest thing in the world is a pit bull with aids. The first meanest thing is the guy that gave it to him.
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| I will say that most pit bulls are very nice dogs. I do also want to point out that the media spins these things the way they want to. If a child is mauled by a chow, there will not be a word said on any news syndicate. However, if a child is mauled by a pit bull, then it will be all over the news. The increased number of stories you can find on the internet (pit bull maulings) is to some degree a result of this media bias, because they get more press. However, the latest statistics show that the 2 most implicated breeds in maulings are pit bulls and german shepards. Which 2 breeds are most likely to be used for home protection? Pit bulls and german shepards. Coincidence??? I think not.
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Google news for pit bulls, several more attacks over the holiday weekend. Spin it however you want, but statistics don't lie. Pits are more inclined to to unpredictable, aggressive behavior than any other breed.Or the news media is more likely to report a pit bull incident. I didn't see a bunch of news stories when the golden retriever bit the face off of a toddler at Bass Pro Shop in eastern FL. 
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Google news for pit bulls, several more attacks over the holiday weekend. Spin it however you want, but statistics don't lie. Pits are more inclined to to unpredictable, aggressive behavior than any other breed.
Or the news media is more likely to report a pit bull incident. I didn't see a bunch of news stories when the golden retriever bit the face off of a toddler at Bass Pro Shop in eastern FL.
Right, its a conspiracy. Here are facts from the CDC website, but you keep digging into this X File stringle. Pits are responsible for twice the number of dog attack fatalities than the next closest breed over the same period, these are only the lethal attacks.
Dog breeds and crossbreeds involved in dog-bite–related fatalities in the United States, 1979–1996
“Pit bull” 60
Rottweiler 29
German
shepherd 19
“Husky” 14
Alaskan
malamute 12
Doberman
Pinscher 8
Chow Chow 8
Great Dane 6
St. Bernard 4
Akita 4
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| The key thing about those statistics is FATALITIES. Obviously, it needs to be a big dog to kill someone. I would be interested to know how many people were bitten by shi-tzus. Obviously, few to no fatalities, but I bet they account for alot of bites. Not trying to defend pit bulls, but just trying to keep it real! Anyone have any data on BITES reported to the health department?
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