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TALLAHASSEE, Florida - Most Florida residents would be allowed to take guns to work under a measure passed by Florida lawmakers on Wednesday.

The bill, allowing workers to keep guns in their cars for self-protection, was approved by the Florida Senate by a vote of 26-13. It now goes to Republican Gov. Charlie Crist to sign into law.

Backed by the National Rifle Association and some labor unions, the so-called "take-your-guns-to-work" measure would prohibit business owners from banning guns kept locked in motor vehicles on their private property

The measure applies to employees, customers and those invited to the business establishment as long as they have a permit to carry the weapon.

Backers say the measure upholds the vision of the authors of the U.S. Constitution, who made the right to bear arms part of the Bill of Rights.

"The second thing they wrote about in that constitution was the right to bear arms," said Sen. Durell Peaden, a Republican from Crestview, Florida. "It was what was dear in their hearts."

Nuclear plants exempted
The measure exempts a number of workplaces including nuclear power plants, prisons, schools and companies whose business involves homeland security.

Critics say the measure usurps business owners' rights to determine what happens on their property and puts workers and managers at risk from disgruntled employees.

Dozens of workplace shootings occur every year in the United States, and studies have shown that job sites where guns are permitted are more likely to suffer workplace homicides than those where guns are prohibited.

"This is an attempt to trample upon the property rights of property owners and attempt to make it more difficult to protect the workers in a workplace and those who visit our retail establishments," said Sen. Ted Deutch, a Boca Raton Democrat.

Oklahoma, Alaska, Kentucky, and Mississippi have similar laws, although in Oklahoma, an appellate court barred the state from enforcing the legislation on grounds that it was unconstitutional.

Florida business groups are urging the governor to veto the measure, saying owners should be allowed to determine what happens on their property.

"We are disappointed that politics clearly won over good policy," Mark Wilson, president and chief executive of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, said in a statement.

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But I also believe in the self preservation of our second amendment right to protect ourself and bear arms. 

Here is what I believe.

If a business has parking lots where they allow the general public to use.  i.e. Walmart.  I feel that they give up the right to tell their employees what they can do when they can not tell the general public that they can not carry etc...  If a parking lot for employees is entirely private and closed to everyone except employees, that business owner can operate the business on that property as they see fit. 

Many business that deal with the general public either can not or do not stop the general public from carrying a concealed weapon on their property.  So why should they stop their employees from doing the same. 

Many people are concerned about workplace violence etc...  I hate to enform the unenformed, but if a disgruntled employee wants to bring a gun to work to do harm, they are going to do so with our without this law. 

And another thing I do not understand about the verbage of this law is the fact that it says that a person will have to have the neccessary permit to carry said weapon in their car at the workplace.  In Florida, a person does not need a permit to carry a loaded weapon in the glove box of a vehicle.   So why now would this person need a CCP to have this weapon in their car????  I have not read the law, just what the media has reported on it.  And everyone says that a person will need a permit to do so.  Can someone explain this to me??????

So, I am still trying to figure out where I am on this thing.  I think I am leaning toward the persons right to keep the weapon in their car.  Just for the shear fact that the employer, 99.9999999999999999999% of the time is not going to guarrantee my safety to and from his/her place of business. 

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Back to guns, I think bazookas and missile launchers and maybe 50 cal machine guns should be controlled. Small arms should be de-regulated. More law abiding folks would defend themselves and criminals, who are going to get guns whether they are outlawed or not, would be at much more risk when attacking someone. Talk about a deterent, try not having ANY gun free zones.

Never gonna happen because the givernment says the police (the government) are here to protect us. Its called job security. Same as trying to get anything de-regulated, not gonna happen-job security. Snapper regs, redfish regs, etc., never gonna de-reg no matter what the science says, Its the nature of government. Rant over-flame on

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A criminal with a weapon is going to bring it on a business owner's property whether they like it or not.  Whether they know it or not too.

I am sure many employees already bring their guns to work in their vehicles, but I don't see any business owners going and checking cars for weapons.

I would be interested to hear the position of an actual small business owner on this matter.

Public business parking..No restrictions.

I got fired for having a firearm on company public parking. Was the first employee fired by this owner that has ever been able to collect unemployment. Need I say more about the fact that I pack.

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So long as the weapon remains in your vehicle, it is NOT on the business owner's property - it is on yours, as an extension of your house, and it is lawfully present there.

Period.

The minute that weapon exits the vehicle it is on the private property of the businessowner, who may prohibit firearms on his property if he (in his foolish mind) wishes.

Were I running a business open to the public I would WANT CCW holders to carry. If some jackoff wants to come in and rob me, it increases the odds that there will be more than one person armed in the place at the time (with me being the other person!) and thus able to stop him.

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For those that own a business and I happen to be there, you can bet your ass I'm packing. Like it or not....it's a fact. Short story..I've had some sure enough rednecks in my neck of the woods want to drag me out of my car and beat my ass. Amazing how these drunk SOB's changed their mind real quick. Told them if they so much as put their hand on my car to open the door it would be the LAST thing they would do in their life.

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